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Old 06-26-2019, 08:43 AM   #1
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No worth his price. He needs to come down to reality. Where was he when we get ran over on the ground? Sacks mean shit. Not that important of a stat.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:49 AM   #2
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No worth his price. He needs to come down to reality. Where was he when we get ran over on the ground? Sacks mean shit. Not that important of a stat.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:59 AM   #3
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No worth his price. He needs to come down to reality. Where was he when we get ran over on the ground? Sacks mean shit. Not that important of a stat.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:45 AM   #4
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Guys this whole article is dumb because the writer misread the tweet. He’s saying he can wait until he gets a one day contract in retirement (DJ/JC) because he has a decade more to play.
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:32 AM   #5
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We value Jones. Don't let this "fake" drama confuse you.

This gets done, likely before training camp. I get why he wants Frank Clark type money, you would too. Its all part of the process. If Carl Petersen was the GM I'd be nervous. Veach gets this done. I have no doubt.

Tyreek is the difficult one.

Hell I think I'd lock up Fuller while I'm at it if I'm Veach. I don't know what I'd do with Tyreek. That's a really difficult situation.
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:39 AM   #6
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We value Jones. Don't let this "fake" drama confuse you.

This gets done, likely before training camp. I get why he wants Frank Clark type money, you would too. Its all part of the process. If Carl Petersen was the GM I'd be nervous. Veach gets this done. I have no doubt.

Tyreek is the difficult one.

Hell I think I'd lock up Fuller while I'm at it if I'm Veach. I don't know what I'd do with Tyreek. That's a really difficult situation.
If that is all he and his agent are wanting, this deal would have already been done by now.
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We value Jones. Don't let this "fake" drama confuse you.

This gets done, likely before training camp. I get why he wants Frank Clark type money, you would too. Its all part of the process. If Carl Petersen was the GM I'd be nervous. Veach gets this done. I have no doubt.

Tyreek is the difficult one.

Hell I think I'd lock up Fuller while I'm at it if I'm Veach. I don't know what I'd do with Tyreek. That's a really difficult situation.
I agree. Jones is just doing what is in his best interest, positioning for the contract talks. You don't let a player like that get away, Veach will get it done.

Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.

You pay Jones, and if Hill stays out of trouble and wants to sign a deal that is friendly to the team, and you can squeeze him in with other priorities, ok. Otherwise you continue stockpiling talent at the skill positions on offense and let someone else overpay him.
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Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.
Have you seen the way Tyreek fights for the ball?

I'd say that's a bit more important than speed considering MANY other NFL greats weren't as fast.
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Have you seen the way Tyreek fights for the ball?

I'd say that's a bit more important than speed considering MANY other NFL greats weren't as fast.
I guess we're about due for another albatross contract
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:04 AM   #10
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I guess we're about due for another albatross contract
I guess we'll see what's more important.

Investing in the #1 offense in the NFL or investing long term contracts in one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

Point is, there is no reason to move now... the Chiefs have another season to see what they have.
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:58 AM   #11
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I agree. Jones is just doing what is in his best interest, positioning for the contract talks. You don't let a player like that get away, Veach will get it done.

Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.

You pay Jones, and if Hill stays out of trouble and wants to sign a deal that is friendly to the team, and you can squeeze him in with other priorities, ok. Otherwise you continue stockpiling talent at the skill positions on offense and let someone else overpay him.
Hill is the best football player on the team, outside of the QB. He's a top 10 player in the NFL.

It's not like he's on the cliff of speed decline.
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Old 06-26-2019, 11:33 AM   #12
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I agree. Jones is just doing what is in his best interest, positioning for the contract talks. You don't let a player like that get away, Veach will get it done.

Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.

You pay Jones, and if Hill stays out of trouble and wants to sign a deal that is friendly to the team, and you can squeeze him in with other priorities, ok. Otherwise you continue stockpiling talent at the skill positions on offense and let someone else overpay him.
Steve Smith lost a lot of steps and never stopped being awesome. You're just rationalizing your own dislike for the guy. He's actually really good at the position. I'm sure you're aware of this, but there are a lot of fast guys in the NFL who suck at playing WR.

Hill will be one of the fastest guys in the league when he retires. Just like Deion Sanders, Bullet Bob, and Darrel Green. He's THAT kind of fast.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:35 PM   #13
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Steve Smith lost a lot of steps and never stopped being awesome. You're just rationalizing your own dislike for the guy. He's actually really good at the position. I'm sure you're aware of this, but there are a lot of fast guys in the NFL who suck at playing WR.

Hill will be one of the fastest guys in the league when he retires. Just like Deion Sanders, Bullet Bob, and Darrel Green. He's THAT kind of fast.
If KC had a Matt Ryan type QB I would pay Hill. With PM I wouldn’t break the bank for Hill. If he wants a full market deal I would let him walk.
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If KC had a Matt Ryan type QB I would pay Hill. With PM I wouldn’t break the bank for Hill. If he wants a full market deal I would let him walk.
So if you had a QB who couldn't take advantage of Hill, you'd sign him to mega bucks.

But when you have an accurate generational arm at QB, you would not.

I do not agree. That's just backwards AF.
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:54 AM   #15
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Chris Jones was on the field last year and the Defense was garbage.

The biggest difference maker is going to be the subtraction of Bob Sutton and the addition of a 4-3 scheme.

While I like Chris Jones, he doesn't have the leverage... see how he plays in the NFL under Spags... and if he will be worth it in the future.
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