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Old 02-14-2024, 09:38 AM   #1
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
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Old 02-14-2024, 10:40 AM   #2
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
Sports Complex is a cluster **** parking wise as well. It's not this parking utopia that people make it out to be where you just park and leave in a minute.
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Old 02-14-2024, 10:56 AM   #3
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Sports Complex is a cluster **** parking wise as well. It's not this parking utopia that people make it out to be where you just park and leave in a minute.
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Old 02-14-2024, 10:48 AM   #4
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
A hour to get out? Why so slow?

You also have to thin it was easy for you to park then walk into the stadium. Most ganes it doesn’t take long. Especially Royals games

That’s the thing the flow of traffic will never improve. And most of the parking will be parking garages. It’s going to take forever to get in and then to get out

And the streetcar is limited.

The city needs light rail. Which will never happen
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Old 02-14-2024, 11:02 AM   #5
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A hour to get out? Why so slow?

You also have to thin it was easy for you to park then walk into the stadium. Most ganes it doesn’t take long. Especially Royals games

That’s the thing the flow of traffic will never improve. And most of the parking will be parking garages. It’s going to take forever to get in and then to get out

And the streetcar is limited.

The city needs light rail. Which will never happen
That's definitely the worst of it and probably due to full stadiums + everyone staying until the very end... both times, I was parked relatively close to the stadium and there was just no movement in the lot forever.

They also had a bottleneck strategy several years ago... I remembered basically doing laps around the stadiums, it was so bad. And sometimes it's really easy to get out because they keep the lines moving, but other times not so much.

The easiest way in and out is parking in like L and then walking back to your car and basically being out of that congestion. Very similar to downtown... I almost always park up at like 8th and Main and it's incredibly easy getting out.

Parking garages aren't bad as long as there's a constant stream of cars leaving (and not being tied up by foot traffic or cross traffic).... it's no different than funneling huge parking lots into one or two exit paths.
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Old 02-14-2024, 10:57 AM   #6
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
Don't leave out the "and CRIME" complaining.

Thinking about the "congestion" concerns:
1. The stadium will seat 34,000. This is a smaller footprint.
2. I'm sure the team is counting on increasing season ticket sales to companies that have offices downtown. There are 10s of thousands of people who drive in and park at their corporate offices downtown every day.

If you work at HR Block, or JE Dunn, etc. you're already parked in a lot, and can hop on the streetcar or walk to this stadium site.
3. There are MORE parking spaces within a few blocks of the new stadium location than at the current location
4. UBER man. Getting an Uber from Brookside/Waldo/JoCO to the Crossroads is an easy deal. It's harder to get them out to the current location.
5. Streetcar

Between the streetcar, and rideshare services, and trying to attract more business people who just ... stay for the evening instead of commuting home... you're not going to have 34,000 people trying to drive down there and park for the game all at once.
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Old 02-14-2024, 11:55 AM   #8
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!

Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that.

The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way.
Nothing will ever top how people who live in KC are obsessed with parking and never leaving the suburbs.
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Old 02-14-2024, 12:36 PM   #9
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Nothing will ever top how people who live in KC are obsessed with parking and never leaving the suburbs.
Yep - and KC has so much suburbia and side streets - SO many different options for getting from A to B.
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Old 02-14-2024, 09:42 AM   #10
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35-40K max seating.

Gotta have some mass transit to and from to support.
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Ha. KC Residents will never not worry about parking and free refills, nothing ever changes.
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Ha. KC Residents will never not worry about parking and free refills, nothing ever changes.
No tailgating and a much greater difficulty getting to the stadium seem like issues lots of normal people will care about.
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No tailgating and a much greater difficulty getting to the stadium seem like issues lots of normal people will care about.
every new stadium doesn’t allow tailgating. It’s not cost effective. There’s no money being made. This trend is nation wide.
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every new stadium doesn’t allow tailgating. It’s not cost effective. There’s no money being made. This trend is nation wide.
SoFi allows tailgating.
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SoFi allows tailgating.
That's a Kroenke thing.
He has enough money.
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