Marvel burn out is real

[Raiderhater]

Three episodes of Hawkeye out and no one so much as talking about it in the MCU general discussion, let alone given it it’s own thread.

Personally, I’m enjoying it. Hailee Steinfield’s spunky and can’t leave well enough alone character plays perfectly off of Hawkeye’s more no nonsense personality. So far this has been more in line with what I expected from Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

I realize Hawkeye isn’t a big fan favorite; maybe it’s just Renner’s portrayal of him but, I enjoy the character and, at least to this point enjoying the series.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Katy was the only lame character that should've been killed off

She was comic relief just like most Marvel movies have. Just because you didn’t like her doesn’t mean that she was a shitty character.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Spott

Didn’t even know it was out yet. Not even sure if I’ll get around too watching it. Loki was good, but it’s feels like there’s been an overload of all the new characters and streaming services since Endgame.

The streaming services are good and bad for content.

Good because they basically have given fans anything they want. Bad because not all content is good content. But the services have to keep constantly pushing new stuff out to justify the cost of a monthly subscription.

[mnchiefsguy]

Marvel burn out? Spiderman No Way Home ticket sales say clearly there is no burnout....Spidey speculation is just what is on the front burner right now.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'll get to Hawkeye eventually, though I did forego watching What If. It's just too much stuff to stay on top of.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to catch up with a short-term binge now and then.

What If was awesome, IMHO. Some episodes much better than others, but all worth a watch.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Marvel burn out? Spiderman No Way Home ticket sales say clearly there is no burnout....Spidey speculation is just what is on the front burner right now.

Spider-Man is an A list superhero like Batman. Doesn’t matter how good the movie will turn out to be, he will always be able to ‘Open’ a movie.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Marvel burn out? Spiderman No Way Home ticket sales say clearly there is no burnout....Spidey speculation is just what is on the front burner right now.

People aren't burned out with Marvel - they're burned out with the political nonsense Marvel has injected in their comix and most likely their movies.

Cpt. Marvel was a nobody character revived in the 00's for politics. That's it. That's her whole purpose now. The only interesting thing about her was being stuck in Rogue's body for 15 years.

You watch her movie and she talks, acts, and has the morality of a villain. Religion tried to force its morality on people for decades and now politics have ruined not just the stories but the characters themselves. It's just as jarring as it would be if someone made a Doors movie and suddenly Jim Morrison was quoting Trump and the bible.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Rausch

People aren't burned out with Marvel - they're burned out with the political nonsense Marvel has injected in their comix and most likely their movies.

Cpt. Marvel was a nobody character revived in the 00's for politics. That's it. That's her whole purpose now. The only interesting thing about her was being stuck in Rogue's body for 15 years.

You watch her movie and she talks, acts, and has the morality of a villain. Religion tried to force its morality on people for decades and now politics have ruined not just the stories but the characters themselves. It's just as jarring as it would be if someone made a Doors movie and suddenly Jim Morrison was quoting Trump and the bible.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Marvel isn't putting their best foot forward. They aren't putting their best characters forward. They were handicapped by having their best characters owned by other studios (X-Men, Spidey, Hulk, etc.)

No one cares about the eternals, Shang Chi, Ant Man, etc. They were able to get lucky with their B team (avengers) and some excellent storytelling. They were the first in decades to do any kind of shared universe and no one thought it was even possible to make work.

And I think the Spidey purists (fans of the comics) will admit this is a very different Spidey but the production quality is so far above anything done in the past they enjoy it despite that. And I love the casting of current Spidey I just don't know that I like how they've written him (less of an independent character and more reliant on IM.) If anything I think Sony benefits from not being in the Disney MCU. Sony does not have a good reputation but they're the only Marvel show that's not in Disney's town.

The problem is Marvel has decided to tell stories with characters no one cares about and they have lost the benefit of the doubt. It use to be people would go watch anything in the MCU and it was probably good. With 4 stinkers in the last 4 years it's no longer a given to be good.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Marvel isn't putting their best foot forward. They aren't putting their best characters forward. They were handicapped by having their best characters owned by other studios (X-Men, Spidey, Hulk, etc.)

No one cares about the eternals, Shang Chi, Ant Man, etc. They were able to get lucky with their B team (avengers) and some excellent storytelling. They were the first in decades to do any kind of shared universe and no one thought it was even possible to make work.

And I think the Spidey purists (fans of the comics) will admit this is a very different Spidey but the production quality is so far above anything done in the past they enjoy it despite that. And I love the casting of current Spidey I just don't know that I like how they've written him (less of an independent character and more reliant on IM.) If anything I think Sony benefits from not being in the Disney MCU. Sony does not have a good reputation but they're the only Marvel show that's not in Disney's town.

The problem is Marvel has decided to tell stories with characters no one cares about and they have lost the benefit of the doubt. It use to be people would go watch anything in the MCU and it was probably good. With 4 stinkers in the last 4 years it's no longer a given to be good.

Yet their reviews, ratings, and box office sales are the envy of the entire industry.

[cabletech94]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Green Arrow > Hawkeye

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!!!


(I only kinda liked green arrow).

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Rausch

. With 4 stinkers in the last 4 years it's no longer a given to be good.

Wait. What are the 4 stinkers? I'm assuming you're counting capt marvel. Which was just ok in my book. But then endgame came out.

Black widow i thought was really good. It just came out 5 years too late imo. Shang Chi is supposed to be really good too.

Oh and i almost for got that far from home came out in that time span as well. Also really good.

After a crescendo like endgame they have to scale it back and kind of rebuild for the next phase. I'm willing to give them some rope to try and build that.

[Easy 6]

I gave up years ago, comic book heroes are sooo played out... had it up to my eyeballs, the with any luck the Avengers are all DEAD

After seeing the new Batman, its entirely possible I will go the rest of my life without watching another comic book movie

Its all been beaten to DEATH

[carcosa]

The MCU ****ing sucks and I hate how every new shitty movie takes up all the screens at every theater!!!! There's rarely anything out that's worth watching!!!!!!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by carcosa

The MCU ****ing sucks and I hate how every new shitty movie takes up all the screens at every theater!!!! There's rarely anything out that's worth watching!!!!!!

you will eventually tire of it, too

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Marvel isn't putting their best foot forward. They aren't putting their best characters forward. They were handicapped by having their best characters owned by other studios (X-Men, Spidey, Hulk, etc.)

No one cares about the eternals, Shang Chi, Ant Man, etc. They were able to get lucky with their B team (avengers) and some excellent storytelling. They were the first in decades to do any kind of shared universe and no one thought it was even possible to make work.

And I think the Spidey purists (fans of the comics) will admit this is a very different Spidey but the production quality is so far above anything done in the past they enjoy it despite that. And I love the casting of current Spidey I just don't know that I like how they've written him (less of an independent character and more reliant on IM.) If anything I think Sony benefits from not being in the Disney MCU. Sony does not have a good reputation but they're the only Marvel show that's not in Disney's town.

The problem is Marvel has decided to tell stories with characters no one cares about and they have lost the benefit of the doubt. It use to be people would go watch anything in the MCU and it was probably good. With 4 stinkers in the last 4 years it's no longer a given to be good.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. 4 stinkers? What?