***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Most of our staff are in the indefinite stage now as well. Honestly at this point I don't how I would function going back into the office. It is so nice to roll out of bed and hop on the PC and do IT work all day in my shorts and tshirt.

I think I'd go insane. We've been on a hybrid model of 3 days in office 2 days out of office, then the next week 2 days in office and 3 days out since April. I look forward to my office days, honestly.

[Donger]

Unfortunately, it looks like our cases are growing again. Already at 41,000 today.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Most of our staff are in the indefinite stage now as well. Honestly at this point I don't how I would function going back into the office. It is so nice to roll out of bed and hop on the PC and do IT work all day in my shorts and tshirt.

Same here.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by TLO

I think I'd go insane. We've been on a hybrid model of 3 days in office 2 days out of office, then the next week 2 days in office and 3 days out since April. I look forward to my office days, honestly.

I struggled a bit to get used to it a for a couple months, but feels natural now. The biggest thing for me is burning those extra calories from the day - walking a block or two to the car, going up and down stairs, etc. I stayed jogging 4x a week and the pants were still getting tight.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I could give 2 shits who the president is when this vaccine is ready.

Same there, and reinforces being dumbfounded that the two have gotten so mixed together.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by TLO

Something I've found here in Missouri is that a lot of places that have the ability for their employees to work from home are learning that it's more cost effective to do so. They don't seem to be in any rush to bring them back to the office.

The issue here is compounded. Our public transportation is incurring a half a billion dollar loss on the backs of these decisions. I by no means think individual companies should factor that into their decisions but there's a trickle down, which means we're all going to pay for that half billion dollar public transportation loss at some point. They're not just going to absorb it.

Secondly, a lot of young people here have given up their high monthly rents to move back in with their parents. For Chicago, that means people that once lived and physically worked here are now back home in Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, so harder to wrangle people back into the downtown Chicago office. So business decisions revolve more around placating staff as opposed to actual risk assessment.

Bars/parties okay. Office, too risky.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Here...."Trump says U.S. will manufacture enough vaccine doses for every American by April"

Everyone happy now????
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trum...-by-april.html

Yeah.... sorry, I'm not trusting that.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

I think I'd go insane. We've been on a hybrid model of 3 days in office 2 days out of office, then the next week 2 days in office and 3 days out since April. I look forward to my office days, honestly.

It helps that I don't have young kids at home because if I did I would always want to go in lol. Now that I have been home for months and it is going to be extremely difficult if I have to go back in. I work alot more hours I think WFH but I like the fact that I can go do yard work or leave and do stuff without someone watching over me. The only thing I miss at work is talking to people in person but I am over that lol.

[KCUnited]

Feel that’s a normal response until people start feigning fear in order to achieve it. Then it becomes a disservice.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Most of our staff are in the indefinite stage now as well. Honestly at this point I don't how I would function going back into the office. It is so nice to roll out of bed and hop on the PC and do IT work all day in my shorts and tshirt.

Yeah, I wear shoes no more than about 16 hours a week now and I really like it. I wear long pants maybe 3 hours a week on average.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Donger

We have an election coming up?

Only if there is a vaccine in time. Otherwise I imagine it will be postponed.

[mr. tegu]

I’m actually losing some tax deductions from mileage by not doing any driving so that’s kind of annoying but it is offset by not having to drive anywhere and saving that time. I work for myself so I don’t really have any difference with regards to having to deal with coworkers or bosses but I imagine I wouldn’t miss it being home. I have no idea how long I will be able to continue working virtually though as it’s going to be completely dependent on client insurance companies.

[suzzer99]

My cousin had a Cancun wedding planned for June, which got canceled. So they moved it to KC - small rehearsal dinner outside, outdoor wedding. She just tested positive the day before her rehearsal dinner.

She is such a sweet kid. Works 3 jobs - including massage therapist. I feel so bad for her. She is the last person who deserves this. They have no money and now they’ve gotten double-****ed on deposits. Also her fiancee is a type 1 diabetic. So far he has no symptoms. No idea how.

I feel so heartsick for her. I guess it could have been much worse if she had tested positive the day after the wedding and a bunch of people got sick. Hopefully there’s no collateral damage now.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

My cousin had a Cancun wedding planned for June, which got canceled. So they moved it to KC - small rehearsal dinner outside, outdoor wedding. She just tested positive the day before her rehearsal dinner.

She is such a sweet kid. Works 3 jobs - including massage therapist. I feel so bad for her. She is the last person who deserves this. They have no money and now they’ve gotten double-****ed on deposits. Also her fiancee is a type 1 diabetic. So far he has no symptoms. No idea how.

I feel so heartsick for her. I guess it could have been much worse if she had tested positive the day after the wedding and a bunch of people got sick. Hopefully there’s no collateral damage now.

Maybe God is trying to tell her something

And he's a type 1, he'll be fine

[O.city]

Wife’s two great uncles are sick now. Grandma still just has loss of smell and feels tired. Her aunt is a lot better today. Last I heard the uncles are just feeling kinda “cruddy” and tired so hopefully that’s all it does