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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:44 AM   #4351
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Justin Houston in KC:

1 AFCCG, 0 Super Bowls

Frank Clark in KC:

2 AFCCG, 2 Super Bowls
That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:47 AM   #4352
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Btw, before Staylor comes in here pumped full of Mountain Dew energy, me talking up Houston has nothing to do with Clark right now. Clark played great in the AFCCG.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:49 AM   #4353
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PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:52 AM   #4354
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He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:54 AM   #4355
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Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:54 AM   #4356
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Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
I agree. He had a bad game. He's sacked Brady 4 in 3 other games though.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:58 AM   #4357
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His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.
The entire defense was pretty bad that day. That's why Spags is here now.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:59 AM   #4358
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That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:00 AM   #4359
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:03 AM   #4360
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I don't have any hate for Houston. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the weeks before the Clark trade was announced, I advocated for possibly keeping him.

But his performance in the playoffs historically wasn't great. You could even say that he was largely invisible for the most part. How much of that was him, and how much of that was Sutton's scheme/inability to make in-game adjustments, or even to use Houston better than he did are all matters that could be up for debate. But the bottom line is Houston wasn't a playoff game performer during his time with KC.

Frank Clark has played really big in the playoffs, and seemingly bigger when the lights were brightest and on the biggest stages. Clark is a winner, period.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:06 AM   #4361
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PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.
Without a doubt, can we just kill this ****ing narrative?
Who spends this much time trying to find cracks in their own foundation of talent?

Get a ****ing life
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It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.
Using team success to measure the difference the player is disingenuous. Ben Neimann has more AFCCG and superbowl wins than Derrick Johnson. What does that mean?

I think Clark has been better than Houston in the playoffs, but using team wins as a way of proving that is dumb.
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He had a sack in the titans game and 2 in the Indy game.
Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.

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You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.
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Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.



You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.
So it doesn’t matter if it’s just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.
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