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Old 03-01-2020, 06:53 PM   #1
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Old 03-01-2020, 08:27 PM   #2
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I understood when KK fired Josh Trank due to the nonsense that happened during and after the filming of Fantastic Four.

I understood when KK fired Lord & Miller for shooting up to 40 takes of each and every scene while wildly veering from Larry Kasdan's script.

I understood hiring Rian Johnson, who's really a brilliant story teller and while I didn't "love" everything in that film or even agree with the direction, he was a very solid choice.

But firing Trevorrow? That, I don't get, especially after seeing all of the artwork and reading the story. While his Episode IX wouldn't have justified the Sequel Trilogy, his story didn't change Canon. His story didn't nullify Anakin's story arc or redemption and he didn't redeem Kylo Ren, which to me, was completely unjustified in Abrams version of IX.

I really believe that KK's on thin ice, especially after Iger resigned this week. But there's nothing that she could do in the future and there's nothing that Disney can do moving forward that will ever rectify the gigantic garbage pile of movie-making that is the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.

Nothing.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:42 PM   #3
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I understood when KK fired Josh Trank due to the nonsense that happened during and after the filming of Fantastic Four.

I understood when KK fired Lord & Miller for shooting up to 40 takes of each and every scene while wildly veering from Larry Kasdan's script.

I understood hiring Rian Johnson, who's really a brilliant story teller and while I didn't "love" everything in that film or even agree with the direction, he was a very solid choice.

But firing Trevorrow? That, I don't get, especially after seeing all of the artwork and reading the story. While his Episode IX wouldn't have justified the Sequel Trilogy, his story didn't change Canon. His story didn't nullify Anakin's story arc or redemption and he didn't redeem Kylo Ren, which to me, was completely unjustified in Abrams version of IX.

I really believe that KK's on thin ice, especially after Iger resigned this week. But there's nothing that she could do in the future and there's nothing that Disney can do moving forward that will ever rectify the gigantic garbage pile of movie-making that is the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.

Nothing.
a Darth Vader centered movie about his prime years kicking butt and how he became feared throughout the galaxy as the Sith took power. That would get everyone back on board.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:49 PM   #4
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a Darth Vader centered movie about his prime years kicking butt and how he became feared throughout the galaxy as the Sith took power. That would get everyone back on board.
Yep show the struggle inside as he slips deeper and deeper to the dark side. Movie can be centered around him chasing down remaining Jedi with a show down with Obi Wan.

End the movie with Obi Wan defeating him again but this time it’s less clear who won.

Find three Jedi masters for Vader to fight in his prime and the struggles he has with killing some of them
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Old 03-06-2020, 12:31 PM   #5
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a Darth Vader centered movie about his prime years kicking butt and how he became feared throughout the galaxy as the Sith took power. That would get everyone back on board.
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Yep show the struggle inside as he slips deeper and deeper to the dark side. Movie can be centered around him chasing down remaining Jedi with a show down with Obi Wan.

End the movie with Obi Wan defeating him again but this time it’s less clear who won.

Find three Jedi masters for Vader to fight in his prime and the struggles he has with killing some of them
Canon comics have kind of already dispensed the notion of Vader being truly evil.

They've shown him as having mercy, as having doubts and regrets and feeling the "pull to the Light".

In the last issue of Vader Comics (#3, I believe), Vader runs into, what appears to be, Padme, who's apparently still alive, long after dying in RotS. We won't know for sure if it's truly Padme, and some have suggested it was one of her "look-a-like" body guards, until the next issue is released. But Anakin/Vader still has feelings for her.

But for the most part, it seems like Lucasfilm is veering Vader's story away from being the most evil man in the galaxy to a man that's confused about the choices he'd made, which of course eventually leads him towards redemption.

Personally, I'd rather Lucasfilm move their stories 1,000 years into the future rather than trying to "milk" the OT era for everything it's worth.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:11 PM   #6
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Apparently Rey & Kylo also had a telepathic conversation that for some reason wasn't in the movie.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ben-s...085840965.html

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A novelization of the film to be released later this month cited by ComicBook.com as well as excerpts circulating on social media detailed what happened after Ben Solo sacrificed himself to save Rey. On screen, the two kiss. But they also gaze at each other for a long moment, and some fans believe a kind of communication between the two of them took place. The novel confirms it.

“A voice came to her through the Force, clear and strong.

‘I will always be with you,’ Ben said.

She smiled. Let the truth of it wash over her.

‘No one’s ever really gone,’ she whispered.”
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Old 03-03-2020, 03:12 PM   #7
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:34 AM   #8
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So Palpatine's "son" was, actually, a failed attempt to clone him, which you know, makes a lot more sense than Palps ****ing and explains why he would have discarded his "son" without a second thought.

IF YOU HAD PUT THIS IN THE MOVIE MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HELL OF A LOT BETTER.

THIS ACTUALLY MAKES ****ING SENSE. YOU ****ING JACKASSES.

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But now, per ScreenRant, intrepid readers have also answered the question of who Palpatine did the deed with in order to have his apparently white-sheep-of-the-family kid: Nobody!

Yup, it’s Oops All Clones again, with Rey apparently getting a series of flashbacks near the book’s end, showing not just Palpatine taking over his sickly clone-on-a-hook body, but also the creation of “a useless, powerless failure” who was “a not-quite-identical clone.” Said clone eventually grew up to be Rey’s dad, presumably after an exciting and fulfilling childhood spent hanging out in his “dad’s” lightning pyramid on Exegol.

While kind of boring, the answer comes as something of a relief. We don’t want to get into a lot of heavy moral judgments here, but we’re pretty sure Sith make for shitty boyfriends; that whole “Rule Of Two” things sounds like it’d play hell on an active social life.
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So Rey is actually Palpatine's daughter? I'm confused.
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So Rey is actually Palpatine's daughter? I'm confused.
Rey is the offspring of a failed clone of Palpatine.
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Rey is the offspring of a failed clone of Palpatine.
The sequel trilogy continues to get dumber and dumber
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It's more believable than "PALPS SEXY TIME!"

And it explains WHY Palpatine, the most powerful being in the galaxy, would somehow lose track of his offspring - because he was nothing more than garbage to him.

Makes perfect sense.
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It's more believable than "PALPS SEXY TIME!"

And it explains WHY Palpatine, the most powerful being in the galaxy, would somehow lose track of his offspring - because he was nothing more than garbage to him.

Makes perfect sense.
Obviously, I haven’t read the novelization but what I have read about it doesn’t appear to make this explanation sensible.

Apparently, Sidious went through clone bodies like water because his Dark Side power and energy were too much for the clones to handle for any substantial period of time.

So with that being the case, and knowing that any clone body would have a limited shelf life, why was Rey’s father’s deemed “defective”? The man obviously lived through the cloning process, met a woman and had a child.

If Sidious was burning through clones, what made this clone disposable when, with all intents and purposes, EVERY clone was disposable?

Again, this explanation doesn’t make any sense.
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It doesn't say anything about a mother though... we still don't have any definitive proof of Sith sexytime...
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It doesn't say anything about a mother though... we still don't have any definitive proof of Sith sexytime...
Considering the "logic" of these films, she's probably a clone of Palpatine, too
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