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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 12-05-2016, 01:59 PM   #346
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Save that ammo for the trade deadline IMO. As long as we stay healthy, add some pieces in either a Wader or Cain deal this offseason. We will compete in 2017. I don't get all of this doom and gloom crap. Still a very good balllclub when healthy.
Adding pieces in a Wader or Cain deal also subtracts the pieces of Wader or Cain. Assuming they are healthy, we have no adequate replacement for them.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:04 PM   #347
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:12 PM   #348
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:14 PM   #349
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Umm need more than just that
Wouldn't it be Wade for Soler + AAAA reliever + lotto ticket bat?
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:15 PM   #350
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:16 PM   #351
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If Soler (or an equivalent of him) is the main piece the Royals get for how high back-end relief pitching is valued right now, I may vomit.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:17 PM   #352
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:23 PM   #353
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That are funnay.

Seriously though, if you deal Duffy you need 2 SP instead of just 1. Me thinks that's a money losing proposition. The reason the Royals made the run is the payroll per out earned was LOW.

Value at starting pitching is very much a part of that.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:26 PM   #354
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If Soler (or an equivalent of him) is the main piece the Royals get for how high back-end relief pitching is valued right now, I may vomit.
It does seem a little shy but the elbow woes may scare some teams.

The Cubs got Chapman for Gleybar Torres and I'd imagine Torres and Soler have roughly equal value. Torres seems to have the brighter future but Soler's a major league DH at worst right now.

And I wouldn't get way down on Soler just yet either; he made some nice progress with his walk rate last year and did so while maintaining an ISO around .200. If he can keep that walk rate around 10-11% and get the K rate to around 23%, if you combine that with a .200 ISO you've got a damn dangerous player.

If you could get 4 years of what Morales gave you guys last year for the cost of 1 year of Davis, would you take it? With a little more upside than that?

And before you say no - do me a favor and take a look at Wil Myers numbers. There would be something strangely satisfying about trading Myers for Shields and Davis, then dealing Davis for a guy that has a very VERY similar hitting profile to Wil Myers. About the only thing that separated those two offensively last year was PAs and some BABIP luck.

You might be right - Davis is damn good and perhaps you could do a bit better. But I don't think this is the puke-worthy kind of return some of you do either. Soler has a chance to be a hell of an offensive weapon.
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