Football Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT - Page 23

Sofa King · 02-10-2021, 01:40 PM

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)

https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt

It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.

If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, doubt it costs that much.

There's some speculation that the Patriots want to trade up from 15 to 4 and to do so, it would cost two firsts and a swap of 2nds.

Yeah, it's going to cost a ton to get from 31 to 12. A ton.

RunKC · 04-14-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, doubt it costs that much.

This isn’t madden

**The Franchise** · 04-14-2021, 11:18 AM

It cost two firsts and a third to go from 27 to 10. So it’s at least that to go from 31 to 12. Plus who in the top 15 is moving that far down without wanting a ton of picks in return.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

It cost two firsts and a third to go from 27 to 10. So it’s at least that to go from 31 to 12. Plus who in the top 15 is moving that far down without wanting a ton of picks in return.

It cost the 49ers THREE firsts and a 3rd to move from 12 to 3.

Anybody that think we're trading into the top 15 for less than two first and probably 2 more high picks like a 2nd and a 3rd is kidding themselves.

We're going to get bent over dry if we try that trade.

Chief Roundup · 04-14-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yup. Same here.

The closer we get, I think we end up with Oweh to be honest.

Why? His production was not there. He didn't even have that many pressures. People rail on Clark for being basically Oweh.

staylor26 · 04-14-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Why? His production was not there. He didn't even have that many pressures. People rail on Clark for being basically Oweh.

Because when it comes to pass rushers, you always bet on traits and athleticism. This dude is a freak athlete that hasn’t been playing football very long. He’s just scratching the surface as a pass rusher, and he’s already pretty solid against the run.

Yea the production wasn’t there this year, but it was a weird year. He was very disruptive on tape and consistently got pressure. He also had 6 sacks in a situational role in 2019, so it’s not like he’s incapable of being productive.

The only reason you even have a shot at this guy at 31 is the lack of production.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:36 AM

Oweh actually had a reasonable pressure rate last year, though it was higher the year before.

He's not terrible on tape, despite what some will say, and his measurables are downright explosive.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:37 AM

And yes, he just started playing football 3 years ago. He's REALLY raw, not just underdeveloped but flat out RAW.

That being said, he's mega fast for his size and he has freakishly long arms uses them reasonably well despite the lack of technique.

He wouldn't be my first choice at 31 but I wouldn't hate it.

Jerok · 04-14-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It cost the 49ers THREE firsts and a 3rd to move from 12 to 3.

Anybody that think we're trading into the top 15 for less than two first and probably 2 more high picks like a 2nd and a 3rd is kidding themselves.

We're going to get bent over dry if we try that trade.

Are you a butt ****ing moron? Moving into the top 3 picks is VASTLY different than moving to 10-15.

Sassy Squatch · 04-14-2021, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It cost the 49ers THREE firsts and a 3rd to move from 12 to 3.

Anybody that think we're trading into the top 15 for less than two first and probably 2 more high picks like a 2nd and a 3rd is kidding themselves.

We're going to get bent over dry if we try that trade.

Yeah, that's not the same scenario. Dolphins knew the 49ers had to trade with them for their best chance at QBOTF considering the Jaguars and Jets weren't willing to deal. The Chiefs aren't pigeonholed into one spot they have to trade into for what they want.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerok

Are you a butt ****ing moron? Moving into the top 3 picks is VASTLY different than moving to 10-15.

The current draft value chart has the #3 pick at 2200 points.

SF traded #12 (1200), next year's 1 (1000 averaged) and 2022 round 1 (500, again averaged) plus a 3rd worth approx. 200 points.

Miami then traded from 12 back to 6 (1800) by giving up next year's first (1000), #12 (1200), and swapped late round picks (net 25).

Those two trades alone show that teams are willing to pay 20-30% premium over what is considered the current draft value chart, and that's using averages for future years.

Moving from 31 (600) to 12 (1200) is going to cost AT LEAST next year's first just to get to the break even point. They'll need additional picks beyond that to make the trade stick because the trading partner is going to expect 20-30% premium.

htismaqe · 04-14-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, that's not the same scenario. Dolphins knew the 49ers had to trade with them for their best chance at QBOTF considering the Jaguars and Jets weren't willing to deal. The Chiefs aren't pigeonholed into one spot they have to trade into for what they want.

Gimme a break man.

You just said they were trading up for a left tackle.

Everybody knows the Chiefs need a left tackle, even you, because you said it yourself.

If you think the Chargers are going to just sit there and let the Chiefs leap frog them, you're kidding yourself.

ChiefsCountry · 04-14-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Can he play this year?

I'm just getting worn out on high rounders needing a "redshirt" year.

All reports yes. It sucks that Kiper came out with him, hoping to keep it a secret

Sassy Squatch · 04-14-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Gimme a break man.

You just said they were trading up for a left tackle.

Everybody knows the Chiefs need a left tackle, even you, because you said it yourself.

If you think the Chargers are going to just sit there and let the Chiefs leap frog them, you're kidding yourself.

If it comes to that Veach will overpay to beat out the Chargers and move up.

**The Franchise** · 04-14-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

If it comes to that Veach will overpay to beat out the Chargers and move up.

For Darrisaw? It’s not like he doesn’t have his issues.

02-10-2021, 01:40 PM
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $722096 VARSITY	Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT Moving on from Fisher? Probably not. Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made. Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft. Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.) https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last. Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport. Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal. Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season. Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles. Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking. After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway. If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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04-14-2021, 11:37 AM	#338
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	And yes, he just started playing football 3 years ago. He's REALLY raw, not just underdeveloped but flat out RAW. That being said, he's mega fast for his size and he has freakishly long arms uses them reasonably well despite the lack of technique. He wouldn't be my first choice at 31 but I wouldn't hate it.
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