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Old 07-29-2009, 11:37 AM  
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To the Herm haters.
I'm tired of all the blame going to Herm. Yes, Herm had his share of blunders but the amount of hate that he gets is ridiculous. The biggest mistake that Herm made was underestimating the impact of Jared Allen. And I did too at the time. In 2007, the Chiefs almost had a top 10 defense despite their terrible offense. We know what happened in 2008. But we are quick to forget the defense of 2007. I'm not saying the Herm was a great coach, but he is not as bad as some here believe.

Just to irritate you, lets take a look at what might have been if Herm had stuck around.

-First the acquisition of Cassell never happens. Herm sticks with Thigpen and Gailey runs the system that worked well in the latter half of the season.

-The switch to the 3-4 never happens and the Chiefs continue to run a 4-3 defense.

-Most likely, no notable free agents are picked up.

-Tony Gonzalez remains with the Chiefs.

-The draft rolls around and Herm takes the safe route as usual and picks the following players:

1. Aaron Curry
2. Everette Brown (Herm likes this pick bc of the desperate need for a pass rusher to replace Jared Allen who was lost in 07 and the success of another small DE Dwight Freeney with the Colts where his role model Tony Dungy coached.)
3. Antione Caldwell (Mal Moore leadership award winner is drafted here) Herm kinda player. And can play all line positions but primarily C or G.
4. Louis Murphy (Herm picks a wide out for the needed depth and Murphy provide some speed.)
5. Jasper Brinkley (Tough middle linebacker probably starts.)
6. Andrew Gardner (RT tackle pushes or replaces McIntosh)
7. Captain Munnerlyn (CB and returner)
7. Ricky Jean-Francois (depth at DT)
7. Ryan Succop K


And to top it off. After speaking with Tony Dungy about Michael Vick, who has been mentoring Vick, Herm trusts Dungy and decides to give Vick a shot at backing up Tyler Thigpen.


Would all of this happened... probably not, but it is interesting to think about what might have been if Herm and Carl would have stayed. Again, I don't think Herm is great and I definitely don't think Carl was good, but I do wonder what might have happened. I do like the draft above much better than our current one, and I do like that we still would have Tony G.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:19 PM   #331
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:40 PM   #332
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:09 PM   #333
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Disagree. I think the only players in major jeopardy are on the defensive line.

STAY:
Starters:
Albert
Bowe
Cox
Flowers
Page
Leggett (nickel)

On-the-fence starters / good chance of being a backup:
Carr
Charles
Morgan
Pollard
Cottam

Backups:
Niswanger - Depth at C/G
Kolby Smith - if healthy
Herb Taylor
Tyler Thigpen (not drafted, but part of youth movement)

Borderliners:
Dorsey - I think he'll function okay as a 3-4 DE, but will be traded to get value
Tank Tyler - Might find a good spot at nose tackle. I don't know how sure I am about this.

Cut:
Hali
Richardson
Croyle
Turk McBride - I still think he could fare well as a 3-4 DE because of his experience at DT. But the fact that Haley has him as a OLB makes me think he's doomed.
Donald Washington will replace Leggett as the Nickel.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:12 PM   #334
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Donald Washington will replace Leggett as the Nickel.
I don't really think Leggett is on the bubble. I think if Washington will push anybody, it will be Carr.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:31 PM   #335
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As Skip put it, all the dumb**** rejects from the Coalition are infesting the Planet now. This idiot is proof positive that it's a bad thing. He's starting to make DCS look semi-normal.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:40 PM   #336
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As Skip put it, all the dumb**** rejects from the Coalition are infesting the Planet now. This idiot is proof positive that it's a bad thing. He's starting to make DCS look semi-normal.
I disagree.

Overall, zilla brings solid football opinions and intelligent conversation to this forum.

But in this is his one area of dumbassery.

But that's okay.

Everyone of us at one time or another has been a dumbass, including myself.
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Old 03-22-2025, 10:38 PM   #337
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I'd argue that was the problem.

I was a backer and optimistic. He was really good at spotting talent and really bad at coaching it in crunch time. It's a shame. The guy should have transitioned to GM or something.
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I'd argue that was the problem.

I was a backer and optimistic. He was really good at spotting talent and really bad at coaching it in crunch time. It's a shame. The guy should have transitioned to GM or something.
He’s where he needs to be. A TV personality. He’s charismatic and a great speaker.
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