Chiefs Fire Bob Sutton - Page 222

**petegz28** · 10-19-2017, 10:12 PM

That is all.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-23-2018, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

a little birdie told me Sutton is retiring after this season, so there's that

So Todd Bowles come on down??

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2018, 01:35 PM

God I hope Clay's source is right.

Chris Meck · 12-23-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

So Todd Bowles come on down??

Let's get innovative instead.

rabblerouser · 12-23-2018, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Let's get innovative instead.

This.

Ben Bloom, or Brandon Staley, the Bears LB coach.

I'd take Kris Richard, the Dallas DB coach...

Anyone off the Ravens staff...

Bewbies · 12-23-2018, 01:39 PM

Sutton retiring? My dick is already struggling to make it an entire season with Mahomes. I mean the blisters. Is there a salve that can handle news like that?

rabblerouser · 12-23-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Sutton retiring? My dick is already struggling to make it an entire season with Mahomes. I mean the blisters. Is there a salve that can handle news like that?

Don't be a pussy. Spit on it, and if the blisters break, that's just more juicy lube. The pain makes it real.

GloryDayz · 12-23-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Wouldn't kid around about this.

Same source who said Pioli was gone.

Did your source add anything about why they waited so long to do it, when the rest of us knew it two years ago? And why they're not doing it right now instead of waiting until then end of what might very-well be a year where this defense is why we don't go to the SB?

Asking for a ~~spirit~~ friend..

Aspengc8 · 12-23-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Did your source add anything about why they waited so long to do it, when the rest of us knew it two years ago? And why they're not doing it right now instead of waiting until then end of what might very-well be a year where this defense is why we don't go to the SB?

Asking for a ~~spirit~~ friend..

probably because they had a top 10 defense 3 years ago when they didnt have key players injured all season?

TwistedChief · 12-23-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've got no issues with that if Bailey doesn't want a ton of money. I think Kpass is still a possible piece.

I too would let Ford walk, he doesn't fit in a 4-3 except as a situational pass rusher and that's too much money to invest in that role. You could sign a top tier CB for that; or a top tier S and a 2nd tier corner for what he would cost.

I hate the idea of letting Ford walk. I fully understand not wanting to commit to him long term, but I think it would be a mistake to not franchise him, to not retain an option of franchishing him again in the future (if he recreates this season or better), and to walk away because you don’t want to commit to one season’s franchise salary. Our pass rush is the only thing above average on our defense and Ford has been the key player in that respect. Jones has had an amazing season but Ford has been the consistent force off the end.

Coach · 12-23-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I hate the idea of letting Ford walk. I fully understand not wanting to commit to him long term, but I think it would be a mistake to not franchise him, to not retain an option of franchishing him again in the future (if he recreates this season or better), and to walk away because you don’t want to commit to one season’s franchise salary. Our pass rush is the only thing above average on our defense and Ford has been the key player in that respect. Jones has had an amazing season but Ford has been the consistent force off the end.

I agree. I initially was on the boat of letting him walk after this season, but after seeing him play, I have moved away from that, and now firmly in the "franchise tag" boat with him.

I want him to repeat that success again before I would consider a long term contract, if I was a GM. I am not comfortable handing out a big contract to a guy who has a history of injuries and potentially back issues, but that is just me.

Aspengc8 · 12-23-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've got no issues with that if Bailey doesn't want a ton of money. I think Kpass is still a possible piece.

I too would let Ford walk, he doesn't fit in a 4-3 except as a situational pass rusher and that's too much money to invest in that role. You could sign a top tier CB for that; or a top tier S and a 2nd tier corner for what he would cost.

Ford was a wide 9 in auburns even front. If anything, Ford and Houston would be your ends with nnadi and jones at 1/3 techs. If you want to run a reduced front, Houston is strong enough to reduce down and be covered by someone like DoD. Problem is hichens and ragland suck in coverage.

TwistedChief · 12-23-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

I agree. I initially was on the boat of letting him walk after this season, but after seeing him play, I have moved away from that, and now firmly in the "franchise tag" boat with him.

I want him to repeat that success again before I would consider a long term contract, if I was a GM. I am not comfortable handing out a big contract to a guy who has a history of injuries and potentially back issues, but that is just me.

Totally. And we’re kinda a SB contender this year and next so, well, GO FOR IT. Imagine if Berry is back in his old form and we draft some defensive players who contribute immediately. And if we just add that to this year’s team.

We’d be undefeated. That’s not an exaggeration.

FloridaMan88 · 12-23-2018, 05:39 PM

Crazy to think that Bob Sutton and Pete Carroll are the same age.

Carroll looks like he could coach another 10 years, while Sutton has that perennially lost in the Depends aisle look on his face.

Chris Meck · 12-23-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I hate the idea of letting Ford walk. I fully understand not wanting to commit to him long term, but I think it would be a mistake to not franchise him, to not retain an option of franchishing him again in the future (if he recreates this season or better), and to walk away because you don’t want to commit to one season’s franchise salary. Our pass rush is the only thing above average on our defense and Ford has been the key player in that respect. Jones has had an amazing season but Ford has been the consistent force off the end.

You have to stay 3-4 if you keep Ford. He's really only a situational pass rusher in a 4-3, and the franchise money is too much in that case.

If we stay 3-4 I'm not opposed although I think I'd rather move to a 4-3 as I think we have a few pieces that would fare better in that alignment than 3-4, namely Speaks and Kpass. Also, it helps your ILB's, so you would have, say, Speaks, Kpass, O'Daniel, and Hitchens all helped by the 4-3 or you stay in a 3-4 and commit $15m plus to Ford and have the same issues with your LB corps.

shrug.

rabblerouser · 12-23-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

probably because they had a top 10 defense 3 years ago when they didnt have key players injured all season?

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