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Old 12-02-2020, 02:21 PM   #1
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EB would be dumb to hitch his wagon to Dorsey. Dorsey is a decent talent evaluator but is literally not good at being an executive. Great scout, not a good GM.
It doesn't "help" EB at all. He's going to get legit offers with or without Dorsey.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #2
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It doesn't "help" EB at all. He's going to get legit offers with or without Dorsey.
Exactly.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #3
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It doesn't "help" EB at all. He's going to get legit offers with or without Dorsey.
I took that to mean EB wouldn’t be saddled with a shit ass GM
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #4
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I took that to mean WB wouldn’t be saddled with a shit ass GM
Pretty sure he was agreeing with me.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:29 PM   #5
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EB would be dumb to hitch his wagon to Dorsey. Dorsey is a decent talent evaluator but is literally not good at being an executive. Great scout, not a good GM.
Left KC with alot of talent Cleveland too
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:34 PM   #6
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Left KC with alot of talent Cleveland too
Again, nobody is questioning the talent scout part of it.

He left KC in cap hell and he got fired in Cleveland for making one of the worst HC hires in recent memory.

If you want to say he'd make a great personnel director, I won't argue.

He's a TERRIBLE GM because a general manager has a lot more to do than just the draft.
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Again, nobody is questioning the talent scout part of it.

He left KC in cap hell and he got fired in Cleveland for making one of the worst HC hires in recent memory.

If you want to say he'd make a great personnel director, I won't argue.

He's a TERRIBLE GM because a general manager has a lot more to do than just the draft.
That kind of talent with a good coach wins alot of games at the end of the day that's all that matters.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:38 PM   #8
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That kind of talent with a good coach wins alot of games at the end of the day that's all that matters.
He hired the coach in Cleveland and they went 6-10 with nearly the same roster that's now 8-3.

So no, that's not all that matters.
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Old 12-03-2020, 08:56 AM   #9
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EB would be dumb to hitch his wagon to Dorsey. Dorsey is a decent talent evaluator but is literally not good at being an executive. Great scout, not a good GM.
I don't think Dorsey can evaluate talent worth a damn unless they have first round talent.

To me Reid gets the credit for Kelce because he already knew him through his brother. And from what I read at the time, Reid was in for Tyreek and Dorsey wasn't.

Dorsey drafted Peters, but he basically fell to us because of the drug issues and being kicked off his team.

Dorsey is basically Pioli without the candy wrapper in the stairwell.

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Old 12-02-2020, 08:40 AM   #10
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EB doesn't need that baggage of Dorsey
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:50 AM   #11
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John Dorsey is a good scout and has a knack for getting high end players. The issue with him is he is a nightmare handling the cap, and it's either boom or bust with the players he brings in. Dorsey hemorrhaged the Chiefs cap when he was here by not signing Houston or Berry until the last possible moment.

I don't know why EB would tie his head coaching career to Dorsey
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Dorsey stacked KC with talent, Then he stacked Cleveland with talent. If I was an owner and wanted to start winning I'd hire Dorsey in a heartbeat and provide him a team to manage the cap like Veach has. Bringing in Bienemy would be a good move also because he has been Andy's right hand man and is a great leader.

I just hope they go to an NFC team
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We would be receiving a 3rd round pick in this draft, correct?
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We would be receiving a 3rd round pick in this draft, correct?
+ another 3rd in ‘22
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Still think the Jets will try to get these guys whether they succeed or not.

It would be a great selling point for Lawrence to go there
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