Football The NFL and the rise of superteams - Page 2

chinaski · 09-20-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

This is a terrible thing for the league and for fans. No one wants to watch the same teams winning over and over and over just because the players want to get a cheap ring.

Jostens makes those rings. Same company that makes High School and College Class rings. Yes, I am sure they are a click above those, but ****, if you want a ring, just go buy one.

Heck, I'm pretty sure I spotted Mitchell Schwartz wearing a Patek Phillipe Aquanaut, that's a 20k watch.

tmax63 · 09-20-2019, 10:15 AM

Yeah, it really sucks when you go into the season knowing that unless a miracle occurs your team is going to suck. If you start out with half of your viewing audience not thinking their team has a chance I don't see how that is good for football. Basketball put their faith in several elite players picking who wants to play where with whom and I know they lost at least one casual viewer (me) since the team I did root for isn't one of the "chosen".

chiefzilla1501 · 09-20-2019, 10:18 AM

Although the downside is we're also seeing superlosers. Too many teams this year are super unwatchable.

UChieffyBugger · 09-20-2019, 10:19 AM

A Dolphins guy thinks we're in the driving seat HERE. Probably means nothing but we've not had any rumours today so I thought I might as well oblige.

bowener · 09-20-2019, 12:38 PM

In the NFL success seems to come down to ownership more than anything. Yes, a great coach and stud QB are required for prolonged success, but you have to have ownership with enough sense, patience, and trust to allow for something to grow into a great team. Once it is established it will attract better players and players will respect the team more knowing while there they have a chance at greatness.

Look at the perennial bottom feeders or underachievers. They all seem to have shit ownership that is totally fine with owning a loser so long as it makes money. Royals owner Glass could take over the Browns organization and it would run the exact same as it does now.

**BossChief** · 09-20-2019, 01:26 PM

It’s not something that just started.

Bo Jackson
John Elway
Eli Manning
Jake Plummer

Lots of instances where a player didn’t want to play for the team that had his rights.

Eureka · 09-20-2019, 01:34 PM

All super-teams start with a great QB.

Mile High Mania · 09-20-2019, 02:01 PM

Ok, so ... which teams are the 'superteams'?

Most recently, the Rams went on their big spending spree... no title yet. Yes, after the SEA loss, Denver went all in on a few guys and that worked.

CLE did well this offseason, they're not lighting the world on fire at this point.

Patriots, Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, Rams, 49ers and SEA... all undefeated right now. Are any of these teams really a superteam in the sense the article describes?

Dunerdr · 09-20-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, so ... which teams are the 'superteams'?

Most recently, the Rams went on their big spending spree... no title yet. Yes, after the SEA loss, Denver went all in on a few guys and that worked.

CLE did well this offseason, they're not lighting the world on fire at this point.

Patriots, Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, Rams, 49ers and SEA... all undefeated right now. Are any of these teams really a superteam in the sense the article describes?

I only glanced at it but i believe the article alludes to the fact that in the future super teams will be more common, and i dont think the mean like the future tomorrow.

displacedinMN · 09-20-2019, 02:52 PM

If Denver did, it was Manning.....not the others around him.....and the refs.

Mile High Mania · 09-20-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN

If Denver did, it was Manning.....not the others around him.....and the refs.

Ubeja Vontell · 09-20-2019, 04:13 PM

Everything about the way the NFL is ran sucks. They do everything as wrong as wrong can get.

First off where is the competition? The CFL, Arena football? Where are these guys going to go? Why are they paying these guys that kind of $$$$$$ it's beyond stupid.

Contracts signed are written in stone. The team cannot cut you and no contract can be reworked.

All contracts are for four seasons.

Nobody making over 10 mill a season.

We all work and have to deal with how the place is ran if we don't like it, we can quit. You wanna play NFL football there it is, you will make at least 1 mill a season, where can you beat that?

I like all of you make ends meet on far less than a 1 mill a year. In five years all these guys could be more than set for life. If they aren't then they didn't want to be.

WhiteWhale · 09-20-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Everything about the way the NFL is ran sucks. They do everything as wrong as wrong can get.

They're the most successful and profitable sport in the entire nation.

Ubeja Vontell · 09-20-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

They're the most successful and profitable sport in the entire nation.

Give me one reason a company pays anyone the $$$$$$ the NFL pays knowing ........NO PLACE ELSE TO GO!!!!!!

NFL....ok gang, we are only paying 1 mill a season, take it or leave it.

Now what?

WhiteWhale · 09-20-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Give me one reason a company pays anyone the $$$$$$ the NFL pays knowing ........NO PLACE ELSE TO GO!!!!!!

NFL....ok gang, we are only paying 1 mill a season, take it or leave it.

Now what?

So your point is that the NFL is stupid because it pays players too much?

And this is, somehow, stupid to you in spite of the NFL being the most profitable sport in US history?

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Ubeja Vontell Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: central Cali Casino cash: $10010413	Everything about the way the NFL is ran sucks. They do everything as wrong as wrong can get. First off where is the competition? The CFL, Arena football? Where are these guys going to go? Why are they paying these guys that kind of $$$$$$ it's beyond stupid. Contracts signed are written in stone. The team cannot cut you and no contract can be reworked. All contracts are for four seasons. Nobody making over 10 mill a season. We all work and have to deal with how the place is ran if we don't like it, we can quit. You wanna play NFL football there it is, you will make at least 1 mill a season, where can you beat that? I like all of you make ends meet on far less than a 1 mill a year. In five years all these guys could be more than set for life. If they aren't then they didn't want to be. Last edited by Ubeja Vontell; 09-20-2019 at 04:20 PM..
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