Chiefs Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert - Page 2

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 09:22 AM

I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up.

13 fewer tags than last year

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST

The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013.

So what gives?

The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that.

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP.

The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson.

The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool.

The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded.

It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker?

The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation.

If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag.

Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate.

Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year.

Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

A "show me" year could be about the back or it could be about seeing if Donald Stephenson (or even a 1.1 draft pick) develops into a starter quality LT, fwiw.

This. If the back acts up (they normally do) then I can see them cutting ties next season and we'll be debating whether or not to slide Stephenson into the starting role or drafting another LT.

**Dave Lane** · 03-05-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

This. If the back acts up (they normally do) then I can see them cutting ties next season and we'll be debating whether or not to slide Stephenson into the starting role or drafting another LT.

Or grab a LT prospect late in the draft this year

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 10:36 AM

Dorsey already came out and said that he views Albert as a LT....and so does a majority of this league.

What's the one thing you don't do when you want your Veteran QB to succeed? **** with his offensive line. Starting a rookie LT in Week 1? That's going to get your QB ****ed.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 10:40 AM

"If/when the Chiefs draft Joekel". Please stop with this bullshit already.
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Fish · 03-05-2013, 10:42 AM

The media is so expectant of the Chiefs to blunder into a stupid safe pick, that they're making up ways to draft a LT #1 despite signing Albert. ****ing shocked I am......

KC_Lee · 03-05-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

The media is so expectant of the Chiefs to blunder into a stupid safe pick, that they're making up ways to draft a LT #1 despite signing Albert. ****ing shocked I am......

It's sad really.

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 10:45 AM

I can't wait to hear the argument of.....

"The Chiefs should draft the future replacement of Albert at 1.1 and let him sit for a year."

Wait....can't they do that with a QB?

"Too risky."

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 10:47 AM

They could lock Albert up for 5 years and the dumb****s would still mock us a LT for not only this year, but 4 more exciting years of ALBERT TO GUARD!!!

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 10:47 AM

****ing hell.....do we need to draft ANY offensive linemen this year?

LT - Albert, Stephenson
LG - Allen
C - Hudson
RG - Asamoah
RT - Winston, Stephenson

We could realistically use a swing man/back up for the C/OG positions.....but we can grab someone in FA to do that or use someone like Luke Patterson (already under contract). We have ZERO NEED to grab an offensive lineman in the first 3-4 rounds of this draft.

KC_Lee · 03-05-2013, 10:48 AM

It's the exceptional depth at OT that has pushed teams over the top to win the Super Bowl.

I mean who can forget the dazzling performance of the depth charts of recent Super Bowl winners?!? I know I for one will be telling my grandchildren of the nearly transcendental performance of Baltimore's depth chart last year in the Super Bowl.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Dorsey already came out and said that he views Albert as a LT....and so does a majority of this league.

What's the one thing you don't do when you want your Veteran QB to succeed? **** with his offensive line. Starting a rookie LT in Week 1? That's going to get your QB ****ed.

1. Anyone who has ever had a back injury can tell you that it will show itself under strenuous conditions.

2. Anyone who has a back condition and is looking for a contract worth MILLIONS is going to tell you that it is fine and will suffer through some minor pain.

It doesn't matter if he is "viewed" as a LT or not. He is damaged goods. Whether or not he can hold up under the rigors of the season is the question and then at what level will he perform. It doesn't matter if we drafted him or think he is the best LT ever. A back injury nullifies everything as it should.

I am glad he doesn't have a long term contract in place. He needs to show he can play and at a high level. Otherwise I am completely in favor of replacing him.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

****ing hell.....do we need to draft ANY offensive linemen this year?

LT - Albert, Stephenson
LG - Allen
C - Hudson
RG - Asamoah
RT - Winston, Stephenson

We could realistically use a swing man/back up for the C/OG positions.....but we can grab someone in FA to do that or use someone like Luke Patterson (already under contract). We have ZERO NEED to grab an offensive lineman in the first 3-4 rounds of this draft.

It would be nice to pick up Barrett Jones in round 3-4 if he is still there.

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

1. Anyone who has ever had a back injury can tell you that it will show itself under strenuous conditions.

2. Anyone who has a back condition and is looking for a contract worth MILLIONS is going to tell you that it is fine and will suffer through some minor pain.

It doesn't matter if he is "viewed" as a LT or not. He is damaged goods. Whether or not he can hold up under the rigors of the season is the question and then at what level will he perform. It doesn't matter if we drafted him or think he is the best LT ever. A back injury nullifies everything as it should.

I am glad he doesn't have a long term contract in place. He needs to show he can play and at a high level. Otherwise I am completely in favor of replacing him.

And if his back acts up again.....you've got Stephenson. A 3rd round LT who should get the opportunity to prove whether or not he can start in this league.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

It would be nice to pick up Barrett Jones in round 3-4 if he is still there.

He's going in the 2nd round. I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the late 1st.

Fish · 03-05-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

1. Anyone who has ever had a back injury can tell you that it will show itself under strenuous conditions.

2. Anyone who has a back condition and is looking for a contract worth MILLIONS is going to tell you that it is fine and will suffer through some minor pain.

It doesn't matter if he is "viewed" as a LT or not. He is damaged goods. Whether or not he can hold up under the rigors of the season is the question and then at what level will he perform. It doesn't matter if we drafted him or think he is the best LT ever. A back injury nullifies everything as it should.

I am glad he doesn't have a long term contract in place. He needs to show he can play and at a high level. Otherwise I am completely in favor of replacing him.

He's already shown he can play at a high level. He is not damaged goods in any sense. These expectations you're putting on him are illogical.

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FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up. 13 fewer tags than last year Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013. So what gives? The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP. The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson. The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool. The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded. It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker? The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation. If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag. Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate. Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year. Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.
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