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Old 01-22-2019, 02:54 PM  
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Andy Reid wonders why Officials did not warn Dee Ford he was offsides....

I didn't even know they did such a thing.....

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Championship Sunday was filled with pivotal plays and penalties in both games that swung the fates of teams battling for a Super Bowl berth.

One of the biggest was an offside penalty on Kansas City Chiefs pass rusher Dee Ford. Officials flagged Ford for lining up in the neutral zone on a play that resulted in Charvarius Ward intercepting New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

Penalty dooms Chiefs
The interception that would have all but sealed a Chiefs victory was wiped off the board with around a minute left in regulation, and Brady marched the Patriots to a touchdown before New England eventually won in overtime.

Unlike the game-changing fiasco in New Orleans, there was no wrangling over this call. Ford was clearly lined up well into the neutral zone. Heartbreaking? Yes. Controversial? No.

Except Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said Monday that he wasn’t completely satisfied with how officials handled Ford on the pivotal penalty.


Andy Reid didn’t dispute the call against Dee Ford but wondered aloud why officials didn’t give him a heads up. (Getty)
Andy Reid: Ford wasn’t warned he was offside
“Normally, you’re warned and the coach is warned if somebody is doing that before they throw it in a game of that magnitude,” Reid told reporters. “But they did. And he didn’t waste any time in doing it.

“He didn’t wait until the interception to throw it. He had his hand on his flag right from the get go, and he saw it from his angle, and he thought it was the call.”

Neutral zone infraction rule
Section 3 of the NFL rule book entry on neutral zone infractions addresses that a player who has been warned about infractions is to be automatically penalized, even if he corrects his illegal position prior to the snap.

A player, after he has received a warning, enters into the neutral zone. It is a foul, even if he returns to a legal position prior to the snap without contacting an opponent or causing a reaction (movement) by an offensive player in close proximity.
What isn’t addressed there and what isn’t clear to the viewer is how and when players are warned. Whatever that process is, Reid appears to believe Ford was not afforded a warning he believed he was due.

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Old 01-26-2019, 11:38 AM   #16
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No shit.

Dee Ford’s mistake was just that, his mistake. And I have no issue with the officials throwing the flag. He should know better.

But what about the ****ing Pats Tackle who was practically lined up in the backfield with Brady?? You can’t tell me THATS not an illegal formation.

So, once again, officials calling out Chiefs D-Linemen for lining up incorrectly, which they did, but ignoring Pats O-Linemen for doing the same thing.

Convenient.

i’m not sure but i remember right when he snapped the ball and i saw the flag thrown i told my brother it’s going to be an illegal formation and that the play likely wouldn’t count....and then we intercepted it and i knew KC was going to decline the penalty and the game was over......and then my heart was ripped out. Ford was offsides, but when the play happened i was just almost certain it was an illegal formation due to him being off the LOS. like i said, that’s why we couldn’t get close to Brady. even scooting back even a half yard more makes a huge difference in protecting the QB.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:50 AM   #17
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Here’s an article talking about illegal formations by the O-Line, and in case you’re wondering, yes that Pats O-Line formation, when Dee Ford was lined up illegally, is also illegal. See the Vikings O-Line reference in article for clarification.

https://www.sbnation.com/2016/11/15/...es-nfl-college

Yes, Dee Ford was in the wrong. But it really chaps my ass that the Pats O-Line was ALSO lined up illegally on that play and the officials chose to ignore it. If you’re going to to call it, call it both ways and call both teams for being wrong. If you’re going to ignore one, at a critical juncture in the game, then ignore the other and let em play.

To do what they did was complete horse shit. Even if Dee Ford was wrong (which he was).
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:55 AM   #18
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The Pats are an excellent franchise that also happens to be the luckiest group of mother****ers in sports history.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:00 PM   #19
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Who cares if they called offsetting fouls there. Still negates the INT. Only thing that mattered.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:08 PM   #20
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Who cares if they called offsetting fouls there. Still negates the INT. Only thing that mattered.
That's been my point all along.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:08 PM   #21
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The Pats are an excellent franchise that also happens to be the luckiest group of mother****ers in sports history.
They create their own luck most of the time.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:19 PM   #22
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He’s 2 yards behind the LOS. Did they do this throughout the game?
I'm sure the coaches told both tackles to do it until they get flagged for it...
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:22 PM   #23
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They create their own luck most of the time.
I mean hey it must be nice to get the benefit of the doubt on every close call.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:25 PM   #24
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My god you guys nitpick about the refs. Funny I don’t see you all crying about Travis Kelce pushing off on all 3 of his catches and one was a TD. This game was decided in the first half Andy and the team got outplayed and coached.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:26 PM   #25
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My god you guys nitpick about the refs. Funny I don’t see you all crying about Travis Kelce pushing off on all 3 of his catches and one was a TD. This game was decided in the first half Andy and the team got outplayed and coached.
Every receiver in the league pushes off, that's how it's called now. Anyone thinking they will call that shit, they don't.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:27 PM   #26
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I mean hey it must be nice to get the benefit of the doubt on every close call.
Yip up to and including overturning calls they have no evidence for.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:28 PM   #27
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Every receiver in the league pushes off, that's how it's called now. Anyone thinking they will call that shit, they don't.
And I bet during the game you can find a picture of Eric or Mitch lining that far back.
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Every receiver in the league pushes off, that's how it's called now. Anyone thinking they will call that shit, they don't.
It boggles my mind that people still haven't figured this out.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:33 PM   #29
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Chiefs got away with one on INT. Bad calls go both ways
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But this is water under the bridge.
He’s been through tougher situations, just ask him, smh.

Please don’t give this man a 2nd contract.
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