Joe Flacco traded to Broncos

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

****ing NO

you chop-blocking, vaseline-smearing, non-called-false-starting, illegal-screen-calling, salary-cap-circumventing-assed WHORES!

TAKE YOUR ****ING MEDICINE

YOU ARE OUR ****ING BITCHES NOW AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

BEND THE ****ING KNEE

You forgot steroid using...

[Mile High Mania]

Meh...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Meh...

You can “We shall see” all you want, but you gotta admit that right now the odds are against Denver doing anything noteworthy in the next 5 years or so. Perhaps more if the ownership situation doesn’t stabilize

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

You can “We shall see” all you want, but you gotta admit that right now the odds are against Denver doing anything noteworthy in the next 5 years or so. Perhaps more if the ownership situation doesn’t stabilize

That's his standard answer for most everything that he knows can blow up in Denver's face.... BTW, he said it would be a "Quick Turnaround."

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

That's his standard answer for most everything that he knows can blow up in Denver's face.... BTW, he said it would be a "Quick Turnaround."

I do view 'quick' to be shorter than 5 years. I think the trade for Flacco is a strange move when they kind of already have that. Flacco is better than Keenum, but not vastly better. Both are short-term pseudo-fixes.

None of it matters if they don't address the OL and find a viable consistent threat at TE.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I do view 'quick' to be shorter than 5 years. I think the trade for Flacco is a strange move when they kind of already have that. Flacco is better than Keenum, but not vastly better. Both are short-term pseudo-fixes.

None of it matters if they don't address the OL and find a viable consistent threat at TE.

The deal is, it's going into year 4, or 3, depending on how you look at it. It's not going to turn around in one or two years. And the best part is, that once you do finally start to turn things around, you'll think that you have a legit shot, but you won't, unless you have THAT guy under center, but that's doubtful because Elway seems pretty clueless about that part.

[Doob02]

The simple fact that you think a TE can really help fix things speaks volumes...

[CrossCheck]

Originally Posted by Doob02

The simple fact that you think a TE can really help fix things speaks volumes...

Elway is as bad at picking Tight Ends as QBs, 3 in the last 4 years and they are still looking.

I heard on the radio today that in Baltimore they called Flacco the pocket sloth...lol

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by CrossCheck

Elway is as bad at picking Tight Ends as QBs, 3 in the last 4 years and they are still looking.

I heard on the radio today that in Baltimore they called Flacco the pocket sloth...lol

Pocket Sloth!

Slow Joe is pretty statuesque back there and not elusive at all.

This is not the type of QB you want when you have guys like Bosa, Ford, Jones and Houston coming at you 4 games a year. Even if Case was inaccurate throwing, he could still move around a little and get you some first downs with his legs. I would be pretty depressed if the Chiefs were about to pay Slow Joe 20 million bucks this year. Got to give the Ravens props for getting out from under that ridiculous contract. A sucker is born every day.

[Halfcan]

Must be tough to be a Donk fan this week- Good news- you get rid of Case.

Bad News- Joe Flucko is now your QB.

The same QB that was hurt last year and lost his job to another kid that can't even throw the ball. Embarrassing.

Meanwhile, your hated division rival has the NFL MVP and is already 3-0 against you in his short career.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you're counting on Elway FINALLY drafting a QB that's worth something? What gives you any faith at all that he can actually get it right or are you just hoping beyond hope that he hits on one blindly?

It's a process... they made some calculated risks and they failed with Brock and Lynch. They have over-reacted to those failures with Case and Flacco. Siemian wasn't terrible. Hell, had they fixed the OL... who knows he could have been an adequate option for a few years until they found the next true starter.

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Must be tough to be a Donk fan this week- Good news- you get rid of Case.

Bad News- Joe Flucko is now your QB.

The same QB that was hurt last year and lost his job to another kid that can't even throw the ball. Embarrassing.

Meanwhile, your hated division rival has the NFL MVP and is already 3-0 against you in his short career.

Things are cyclical... if we're still dealing with this in 3-4 years, then yeah - total failure.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Things are cyclical... if we're still dealing with this in 3-4 years, then yeah - total failure.

That's just the thing - what, in Elway's 8 years as GM tells you he won't still be dealing with this in 3-4 years? What has he done that objectively suggests he knows what he is doing at the QB position?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Even if you forgive him for Lynch, what about Chad Kelly? Or Case Keenum? Or Trevor Siemian? Or Zac Dysert? Or Brock Osweiler?

Kelly? He was a nothing 7th round final pick ... lost nothing by taking him. Same with Siemian, but he actually did ok for a short bit. Dysert? Now, you can say they missed with Brock and Lynch for sure. Same with Case.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's just the thing - what, in Elway's 8 years as GM tells you he won't still be dealing with this in 3-4 years? What has he done that objectively suggests he knows what he is doing at the QB position?

I'm not going to debate his track record, he's missed on all his QB attempts and found himself in the perfect spot with Manning, for sure. Hell, so many here said that would fail and they would be no better than a 9/10 win team with broken down Manning.

That aside... Elway has experienced the highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows in his 8 years. He holds on to his old ways too often, but I think he's slowsly adapting. I like this coaching staff much better than the others. Elway has a lot to prove and for many, his window is closing and rightfully so. I'll ride the storm out.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Kelly? He was a nothing 7th round final pick ... lost nothing by taking him. Same with Siemian, but he actually did ok for a short bit. Dysert? Now, you can say they missed with Brock and Lynch for sure. Same with Case.

Normally, I wouldn't mention Kelly or Siemian for that very reason (late round flyers) but in this case, it's about looking at the whole of his work. Outside of having Manning drop straight from Heaven into his lap, it sure seems like he knows next to nothing about evaluating QBs.

I'm trying to remain as objective as possible here, given that you're a Bronco fan and I'm not, but if I were you, I don't see a whole lot of reasons for hope.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It's a process... they made some calculated risks and they failed with Brock and Lynch. They have over-reacted to those failures with Case and Flacco. Siemian wasn't terrible. Hell, had they fixed the OL... who knows he could have been an adequate option for a few years until they found the next true starter.



Things are cyclical... if we're still dealing with this in 3-4 years, then yeah - total failure.

Siemian was the best of the bunch imo. He never lived up the all the Monday Night hype that he was the next Manning, but he was better than Case, Brock and Lynch.

I don't think Flacco can stay healthy for the rest of his contract. So who will be the backup QB? Do you keep Case as a 10 million dollar 2nd stringer?

It seems like a complete desperation move by Elway. You have the highest QB dollars being spent in the NFL and yet the worst QB situation in the division.

Add to the fact that Flacco is not mobile at all and you have to play the Chargers and Chiefs both with great pass rushers. Elway has gone down the rabbit hole and it will take years and a lot of luck to get back to the Playoffs.