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Old 04-24-2018, 11:24 AM   #1
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I don't think the Chiefs will trade up into the first round. I think they stay put and hopefully, draft wisely with the 8 picks that they have.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:31 AM   #2
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I could see them easily parting with one of the 4ths to move up 5-10 slots if a guy Veach is locked in on gets within range. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:35 AM   #3
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I could see them easily parting with one of the 4ths to move up 5-10 slots if a guy Veach is locked in on gets within range. Nothing wrong with that.
Think that would be enough? I'm guessing it might take one of the extra thirds.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:38 AM   #4
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Think that would be enough? I'm guessing it might take one of the extra thirds.
Would be plenty.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:34 AM   #5
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Yeah, I don't know how good that 2nd next year will be.

I wonder if they could flip it for a player elsewhere. I know that makes contracts weird though.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:37 AM   #6
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Yeah, I don't know how good that 2nd next year will be.

I wonder if they could flip it for a player elsewhere. I know that makes contracts weird though.
It would be like a throw in imo. Which would be like taking pennies on the dollar
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:44 AM   #7
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If there are that many guys with first round grades, I think it actually shows the opposite that the class is pretty weak. Not many guys separating themselves.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:04 PM   #8
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In 2007, NE traded their 28th pick to SF for that years 4th and next years first
In 2009, NE traded back twice for future draft picks that turned into Gronk
In 2011, they traded back 4 times and one was for a future pick they used on Chandler Jones.
In 2013, NE traded down and out of the first
In 2016 they traded down twice

From 2001-2016 NE traded down 36 times.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:32 PM   #9
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In 2007, NE traded their 28th pick to SF for that years 4th and next years first
In 2009, NE traded back twice for future draft picks that turned into Gronk
In 2011, they traded back 4 times and one was for a future pick they used on Chandler Jones.
In 2013, NE traded down and out of the first
In 2016 they traded down twice

From 2001-2016 NE traded down 36 times.
The only one where you mentioned compensation they got a 1st back.

That's their usual mo.

Why would they take a 2nd next year woven they want a qb this year? Why would they take less than a 1st back?


You are dreaming imo


Edit they drafted Jones with a first so they got one in that trade too
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:21 PM   #10
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They didn't need a future Qb those years. Now they do. I bet they trade UP this year.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:30 PM   #11
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On 610 Terez said Dorsey was more of a “gather more picks for more value” guy while Veach is a “get good players period” kinda guy and trusts his scouting to find the right players.

There likely won’t be value at 54 or even 44 for guys that will be there at 32-37. Think about it...5 QB’s are projected to go in the first rd and 2-3 RB’s. Defensive talent is going to slide down the board a bit.

If Veach trades up, he won’t half ass it. He’s going to be aggressive.
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Old 04-24-2018, 01:42 PM   #12
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On 610 Terez said Dorsey was more of a “gather more picks for more value” guy while Veach is a “get good players period” kinda guy and trusts his scouting to find the right players.

There likely won’t be value at 54 or even 44 for guys that will be there at 32-37. Think about it...5 QB’s are projected to go in the first rd and 2-3 RB’s. Defensive talent is going to slide down the board a bit.

If Veach trades up, he won’t half ass it. He’s going to be aggressive.
I think the world of Dorsey as far as drafting goes.

Here's an article which pretends that you should diversify the risk: https://www.vox.com/2015/4/30/851600...raft-economics

I had read a different but similar article some time ago showing the virtues of collecting multiple picks.

I just hope Veach is not over-agressive because of his lack of experience as a GM.

Even when you really love a player and want to trade up for him, you should globally always look to diversify the risk because there is no such thing as a sure thing.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:44 PM   #13
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I had read a different but similar article some time ago showing the virtues of collecting multiple picks.

I just hope Veach is not over-agressive because of his lack of experience as a GM.

Even when you really love a player and want to trade up for him, you should globally always look to diversify the risk because there is no such thing as a sure thing.

Veach's aggressiveness the most difficult issue to predict, as you can see everyone went apeshit when I posted "nightmare scenarios".

I'd rather garner selections for next season since we acquired Mahomes at the expense of the 2018 draft.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:02 PM   #14
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Veach's aggressiveness the most difficult issue to predict, as you can see everyone went apeshit when I posted "nightmare scenarios".

I'd rather garner selections for next season since we acquired Mahomes at the expense of the 2018 draft.
Because trading Hill is beyond a dumbass post.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:11 PM   #15
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Veach's aggressiveness the most difficult issue to predict, as you can see everyone went apeshit when I posted "nightmare scenarios".

I'd rather garner selections for next season since we acquired Mahomes at the expense of the 2018 draft.
TIL that giving up your 1st rounder mortgages the entire draft.
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