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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:22 PM   #256
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Am I clear that you love what you do and you want more from doing what you love?

Yet it's not okay for an NFL player to have the same attitude?

Chris Jones can't love what he does, love where he plays, but also want more money from it? Why? You'd be the classic definition of a hypocrite.
I get that you're not that bright and words are hard. But those are strawman arguments I never made.

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I am all for players getting their money, but the idea that it's their one big payout is ridiculous. Once a guy gets into the NFL he has every opportunity to do something with that to capitalize on it either during his time as an active player, or post career.
Chris Jones has already made tens of millions. As long as he's not stupid, he's set for life.

If he wants 32 million a year over 28 million that's fine. If he wants to win more championships then he may have to choose slightly less money that truly won't effect the quality of his life in any way.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:24 PM   #257
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:26 PM   #258
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The Cowboys are in no way signing him.

Maybe the Raiders or Falcons.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:26 PM   #259
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Yeah, it seems to put way more into duration than peak.

And I think the inclusion of some pretty iffy candidates {cough}TerrellDavis{coughcough} suggests that in NFL HoF circles, that's the wrong way to go about it.

Peak carries a TON of weight to the HoF selection committee. And Jones has a pretty damn unassailable peak, especially in the context of team success.
Check out this comment from Reddit. If true, the system is pretty broken. How the hell does a Pro Bowl get more credit than Super Bowl MVP? The Pro Bowl is a joke.

“Super Bowl rings have a very small amount of weight. They are 2.5 points for a QB, whereas regular season MVP is 12.5 points. 5 SBs = 1 MVP?
Super Bowl MVPs aren’t worth anything at all, unlike…Pro Bowls.”

The guys who came up with this system claim that they intend to show the strength of a player’s Hall of Fame chances. Absolutely nobody would say Matt Ryan and Phil Rivers have a stronger case than Mahomes for the Hall of Fame. Patrick is First Ballot if he quits playing today. Those other 2 guys will be lucky to sneak in at all.
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Gotta keep Sneed tagg him if we have too.


I think we sign them both, I hope.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:39 PM   #261
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Gotta keep Sneed tagg him if we have too.


I think we sign them both, I hope.



I hope the same. A little worried because Sneed was a 4th rounder and coming off that original contract. If I had to guess, he's going to be looking for the BIG BIG BIG $$. Some team will overpay. Tag may be the only option. I still trust in BV, so we'll see.
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I get that you're not that bright and words are hard. But those are strawman arguments I never made.

I'll copy and paste my previous comment........



Chris Jones has already made tens of millions. As long as he's not stupid, he's set for life.

If he wants 32 million a year over 28 million that's fine. If he wants to win more championships then he may have to choose slightly less money that truly won't effect the quality of his life in any way.
I can guarantee two things in this life: 1) My IQ is approximately 60 points higher than yours and 2) You don't clear 2 million per year and won't clear that total in your lifetime.

After that, your delusions are yours alone.
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I hope the same. A little worried because Sneed was a 4th rounder and coming off that original contract. If I had to guess, he's going to be looking for the BIG BIG BIG $$. Some team will overpay. Tag may be the only option. I still trust in BV, so we'll see.
We can easily sign both however this would take us out of signing a like a Mike Evans or Calvin Ridley receiver
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I can guarantee two things in this life: 1) My IQ is approximately 60 points higher than yours and 2) You don't clear 2 million per year and won't clear that total in your lifetime.

After that, your delusions are yours alone.
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1. My IQ is probably tinkering on something that puts me in the lower half of most life forms

2. Discussing money on a message board is worthless. There's no way to tell what somebody makes or is worth via a dialogue in these threads.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a private jet to catch to Zurich...
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I can guarantee two things in this life: 1) My IQ is approximately 60 points higher than yours and 2) You don't clear 2 million per year and won't clear that total in your lifetime.

After that, your delusions are yours alone.
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2 Things:

1. My IQ is probably tinkering on something that puts me on the lower half of most life forms

2. Discussing money on a message board is worthless. There's no way to tell what somebody makes or is worth via a dialogue in these threads.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a private jet to catch to Zurich...
Anytime someone needs to brag to me about their perceived IQ I already know that person is not that intelligent. I work with some of the smartest people in one of the most difficult fields to be smart in, and none of them tell me how smart they are.
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Anytime someone needs to brag to me about their perceived IQ I already know that person is not that intelligent. I work with some of the smartest people in one of the most difficult fields to be smart in, and none of them tell me how smart they are.
Working at Dunkin' Donuts for a living doesn't classify you as intelligent. Serving NFL players coffee in the morning makes you an expert at absolutely nothing. Enjoy opening your next store on your dad's dime kid.
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Anytime someone needs to brag to me about their perceived IQ I already know that person is not that intelligent. I work with some of the smartest people in one of the most difficult fields to be smart in, and none of them tell me how smart they are.
I'll tell you exactly how smart I am. I'm smart enough to surround myself with smart people to protect me from my dumb decisions. Left to my own devices, I would have imploded by now.
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2 Things:

1. My IQ is probably tinkering on something that puts me in the lower half of most life forms

2. Discussing money on a message board is worthless. There's no way to tell what somebody makes or is worth via a dialogue in these threads.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a private jet to catch to Zurich...
Hahaha. I know from interaction with you for some time that 1 is false. You're at least on par with most vertebrates with a functioning brain. Gotta give yourself more credit than that.

And you're probably correct on #2, but given this guy doesn't understand basic finance gives me 100% certainty he doesn't own much less run his own company. Meanwhile, I provide financial advice every day to business owners. I think there's enough of a disconnect there to at least know he's full of shit. I don't care what he does or how much he makes, but it isn't 2 million. It's entertaining watching people downright lie about shit. He's probably booking his next trip to Belize right now...
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1. My IQ is probably tinkering on something that puts me in the lower half of most life forms

2. Discussing money on a message board is worthless. There's no way to tell what somebody makes or is worth via a dialogue in these threads.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a private jet to catch to Zurich...
The board had a no-shit (confirmed at one point) Billionaire on it.

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