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Old 04-16-2009, 01:40 PM  
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Todd Haley is a MF'in prick
WHB610 is giving him hell. No Neal Jones, did he get the ax?

Rumor is Haley called in Will Franklin and told him he was a marked man. He was one of "Herm's guys." Rode him so hard at the voluntary work outs that he asked for his release and it was granted.

I'm not having that big of a problem with this.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:51 PM   #241
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Who said he was a turd?

I said that first off, his play over the last four seasons in no way justifies a top fifteen selection overall, that in retrospect he'd be a fourth rounder and finally, that his play is average.

Average.

Not great.

Not poor.

Average.

How in the HELL can you argue differently?
I think he's slightly above average. He led the league in tackles for loss. Come on now. Average players DON'T do that.

I guess you agree with me, though. Ultimately the Chiefs have a good young linebacker in Derrick Johnson. He has a place as a starter on a good NFL defense. Not elite, but definitely worthy of his starting spot.

Pretty hard to refute that.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:53 PM   #242
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I think he's slightly above average. He led the league in tackles for loss. Come on now. Average players DON'T do that.

I guess you agree with me, though. Ultimately the Chiefs have a good young linebacker in Derrick Johnson. He has a place as a starter on a good NFL defense. Not elite, but definitely worthy of his starting spot.

Pretty hard to refute that.
I think he's average. For every time that he makes "a play", he misses the next (i.e., the Jets game).

He's not a game changer and he's not someone you game plan around. He's a average linebacker on a very bad defense.

I'm not advocating that the Chiefs dump him, I just don't think he's "special".
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:57 PM   #243
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I very much think DJ is replaceable, a guy who should be fighting for a job every TC, which pretty much defines his "meh" status.

But he led the league in tackles after 3 yards every other Sunday111 "Meh" players don't do that111
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:58 PM   #244
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I think he's average. For every time that he makes "a play", he misses the next (i.e., the Jets game).

He's not a game changer and he's not someone you game plan around. He's a average linebacker on a very bad defense.

I'm not advocating that the Chiefs dump him, I just don't think he's "special".
But you agree your original point - that the Chiefs have no young linebackers - was wrong?

That's all we're getting at here.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:59 PM   #245
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I very much think DJ is replaceable, a guy who should be fighting for a job every TC, which pretty much defines his "meh" status.

But he led the league in tackles after 3 yards every other Sunday111 "Meh" players don't do that111
Well, they don't. You can poke fun at it as much as you want. It's a valid point.

He's replaceable, sure. But only if the guy is a frickin' Pro Bowler or something. Otherwise you're wasting resources for a slight upgrade. Stupid.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:08 PM   #246
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But you agree your original point - that the Chiefs have no young linebackers - was wrong?

That's all we're getting at here.
I guess if you want to consider a 5th year linebacker "young", so be it.

He's certainly younger than a 13th or 14th year linebacker.
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Well, they don't. You can poke fun at it as much as you want. It's a valid point.

He's replaceable, sure. But only if the guy is a frickin' Pro Bowler or something. Otherwise you're wasting resources for a slight upgrade. Stupid.
Consistency would be a significant upgrade. We don't even have to start talking about Pro Bowls.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:16 PM   #248
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I guess if you want to consider a 5th year linebacker "young", so be it.

He's certainly younger than a 13th or 14th year linebacker.


Now we're moving the goalposts.

Whatever guys. When the Chiefs are good again on defense, Derrick Johnson will be a big part of it. He's part of the solution, not part of the problem.

PS - Derrick Johnson had the HIGHEST stop rate of any Chiefs linebacker last year. He was in the top 40 against the run and the top 30 against the pass (not even Ray Lewis could say that).

That definitely makes him above average in terms of starting linebackers (3 per team x 32 = 96 - and I should really throw in the 3-4 teams but I didn't) .
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He should be glad the coach cared enough to call him in and challenge him, usually means that they see potential in you and they want you to be the very best you can be, unfortunately you showed your true colors, and that you don't have a strong mind, and basically your a f##king pussy, and when bullets start to fly you will run and hide, later.
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He moved the schedule around so that Thanksgiving is their day off this week
WHAT A MOTHER ****ING PRICK
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He moved the schedule around so that Thanksgiving is their day off this week
WHAT A MOTHER ****ING PRICK
Yeah **** him, he doesn't know how to treat his players.
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Yeah **** him, he doesn't know how to treat his players.
Eat as much turkey as you'd like boys...then stop by #82's house for a home remedy.
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Teams would be lining up to sign Derrick Johnson if the Chiefs released him. He's no turd.
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I think he's slightly above average. He led the league in tackles for loss. Come on now. Average players DON'T do that.

I guess you agree with me, though. Ultimately the Chiefs have a good young linebacker in Derrick Johnson. He has a place as a starter on a good NFL defense. Not elite, but definitely worthy of his starting spot.

Pretty hard to refute that.
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3. Derrick Johnson is going to be the lead on GIF'D UP this week. Not even close. He missed so many tackles yesterday it made me sick, and obviously he screwed up the coverage on Mendenhall's short TD catch. **** it, he's a bust. Time to cut losses and move on. Belcher and Mays may not make as many huge plays but they have been FAR more consistent.
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We've needed a prick in there for a while, and I think labeling him as such is fairly shallow considering the fact that "Herm's guys" probably spent most practices absorbing Herm's blatantly lackluster rhetoric about playing to win the game.

The difference between Herm's guys and Haley's guys is that anyone who isn't working their ass off to make us a winning team is going to be a target, no question.
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I think he's slightly above average. He led the team in tackles. Come on now. Average players DON'T do that.

I guess you agree with me, though. Ultimately the Chiefs had a good young safety in Pollard. He has a place as a starter on a good NFL defense. Not elite, but definitely worthy of his starting spot.

Pretty hard to refute that.
LOL fyp

sounds like GoChiefs is talking about Pollard and not DJ...
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