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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:22 PM   #25111
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:25 PM   #25112
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Old 10-01-2019, 05:16 AM   #25113
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In fact I wish he had done more of the Alex Smith type throws in this game. He kept going deep downfield when it was clear he did not have the deep ball accuracy today.
Offense was fine. Only 2 punts. Missed a FG and 3 fumbles. Scored the rest of them. Never neuter this offense.
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And then.... Mahomes did exactly what he said he was going to do. He drove his team to victory. And everyone lived happily ever after. Well, accept the loser Lions.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:06 AM   #25117
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I think it's very clear that the WR weren't running the right routes several times. PMII is literally an expert of this offense, remember it took ASS11 like 4-5 years to fully understand it. That's the reason why he was so pissed, it's because the young WRs weren't doing the right things. I think playing on the turf had something to do with it too, maybe he expected the receivers to be faster, so he threw the ball a bit further than he would normally.

If you watch Hardman closely, you still see some false steps and imprecise routes. There was one deep out where he took a false step upfield out of his cut and ended up not getting to the ball (which was zipped perfectly where it would need to go if the route was run correctly).

Credit to Detroit for its performance on D - impressive stuff - but KC left some plays out there (and still scored 27 punts despite 3 fumbles).
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If you watch Hardman closely, you still see some false steps and imprecise routes. There was one deep out where he took a false step upfield out of his cut and ended up not getting to the ball (which was zipped perfectly where it would need to go if the route was run correctly).

Credit to Detroit for its performance on D - impressive stuff - but KC left some plays out there (and still scored 27 punts despite 3 fumbles).
Hardman's not even a good college route runner right now.

He goes out there freelancing like he's in High School and can expect to just pull away from guys and get a target after 3 seconds of dancing because his QBs just hanging out in a clean pocket. Don't work that way at this level, Mecole...

He really shouldn't be getting as much playing time as he is. He's unbelievably green and we're fortunate some of that stuff hasn't hurt us worse than it has. It isn't his fault that Hill got hurt; I don't expect Hardman was supposed to be more than a gadget guy.

But circumstances have the Chiefs asking more of him than he's able to give. He's a track athlete playing football right now and that's what separated Hill from guys like him - Hill was immediately showing an understanding of the nuances of the position, even as a rookie.

Hardman isn't. And that's not unexpected - Hill doing what he did was unreal. But Hardman is just damn far away.
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The play where Mahomes missed him coming across the field, Hardman turns it slightly upfield, then is just out of reach. You just can't run imprecise routes.

I'm interested to see if Hill comes back this week. If you can have Hardman in that gadget role, running posts and goes, I think that's more ideal.
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The play where Mahomes missed him coming across the field, Hardman turns it slightly upfield, then is just out of reach. You just can't run imprecise routes.

I'm interested to see if Hill comes back this week. If you can have Hardman in that gadget role, running posts and goes, I think that's more ideal.


I know Mahomes is God. But even God is going to struggle to be accurate consistently when throwing it like this.
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I know Mahomes is God. But even God is going to struggle to be accurate consistently when throwing it like this.
I agree. However, I'd like to know what's the context of that throw? Was he trying to hold a safety with his eyes/body?

If not, if he was just showing off, then yeah, he needs to clean that up and use proper mechanics to deliver a better ball, IMO. But let's be honest, showing off or not, the vast majority of the time he makes that throw.
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I actually think it was right on the money, it's the one where Hardman takes a step to turn it up field instead of staying flat. If he stays flat, it's a completion.
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I know Mahomes is God. But even God is going to struggle to be accurate consistently when throwing it like this.
He was getting killed as soon as he released the ball. I don't see an issue in how he got it out.
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Sure - but it's still going to be hard to be accurate throwing it like that.
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