Report: Justin Jefferson Potentially on the Trade Block

[SHOWTIME]

������������: There is "steam" that the #Vikings could make WR Justin Jefferson available via trade, per @Charley_Walters pic.twitter.com/r8aLroBG2e

— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 25, 2024

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One thing I see becoming dogma is having a #1 receiver on your team doesn’t win you a SB without an elite QB.

Mahomes proved this year that an elite QB doesn’t need a #1 receiver to win a SB.

I think this minimizes the greatness of Mahomes. Mahomes doesn’t need a true #1 receiver to win a/some Super Bowls. Brady didn’t either when with the Patriots. But who else doesn’t or didn’t though?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Are you trusting Veach to draft a legit alpha WR or TE to replace Kelce?

I’m trusting that Veach will seek to build a team that can win a championship with a QB the caliber of Mahomes. It’s not to say it’ll be easy or simple or paint by number or straightforward, but are you trusting Veach?

You, TEX, and MahomesMagic have had the field for the last 2 years and you’re 0-2. GTFO with this “are you trusting Veach” nonsense.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’d say Rice yelling at his QB at a crucial time in the game makes me think that he’s no wilting flower. Maybe even gets into your alpha category?

I agree totally he is no wilting flower. Rice is just as competitive as Mahomes and when this happened the 2nd time Mahomes missing him wide open forcing the throw in the corner to Kelce in which he was totally covered Rice called him out.

Good for him. Mahomes ain't perfect and can improve contrary to most of you CPers.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Rams won a title selling out for older stars not that long ago.

Bucs too. Adding Gronk, Brown, Suh, and of course Brady that I can recall off the top of my head.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Looks like a possession receiver and/or red zone threat. Not that any of that is bad. But I'd prefer a game breaker if one is available at 32.

Define possession WR.


Because Adonai is going to catch the ball down the field more than Rashee Rice.


Is Rice a "possession WR"?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One thing I see becoming dogma is having a #1 receiver on your team doesn’t win you a SB without an elite QB.

Mahomes proved this year that an elite QB doesn’t need a #1 receiver to win a SB.

Mahomes has won 0 zero SB's without a HOF WR.

The first 1 he had 2 HOF weapons and the last 2 he had 1 in Kelce.


Also, the offense when Kelce was looking old last year sputtered to mediocrity during the regular season, even with the emergence of Rashee Rice.


I don't get why mediocre is the goal now.

[lcarus]

The idea is to draft the next Justin Jefferson and have him on a rookie contract. Hell we already have a pretty good one in Rice.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’m trusting that Veach will seek to build a team that can win a championship with a QB the caliber of Mahomes. It’s not to say it’ll be easy or simple or paint by number or straightforward, but are you trusting Veach?

You, TEX, and MahomesMagic have had the field for the last 2 years and you’re 0-2. GTFO with this “are you trusting Veach” nonsense.

If you just read CP in a vacuum, you'd think we're finishing 7-10 every year according to some of these guys. I mean, you wouldn't want to waste Mahomes ' prime or anything.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One thing I see becoming dogma is having a #1 receiver on your team doesn’t win you a SB without an elite QB.

Mahomes proved this year that an elite QB doesn’t need a #1 receiver to win a SB.

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I think this minimizes the greatness of Mahomes. Mahomes doesn’t need a true #1 receiver to win a/some Super Bowls. Brady didn’t either when with the Patriots. But who else doesn’t or didn’t though?

But Pat 'does have' an elite TE. So does Pat need at least one elite offensive player beside himself whether it is a TE, WR, or RB?? Or do they just need to be good and Pat does the rest??

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’m trusting that Veach will seek to build a team that can win a championship with a QB the caliber of Mahomes. It’s not to say it’ll be easy or simple or paint by number or straightforward, but are you trusting Veach?

You, TEX, and MahomesMagic have had the field for the last 2 years and you’re 0-2. GTFO with this “are you trusting Veach” nonsense.

You are 1 for 1 in promoting shitty offense and punting.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

There's something to be said for organic growth on the roster when it comes to team chemistry.

You add Rice, for instance, to this mix and it's not a big deal. He's not going to think he should be getting the ball on 3rd down instead of Kelce. The pecking order has been established by sweat equity if nothing else.

Adding Jefferson is a different creature. Are you going to see some pushback? Could that be why so many of the 'super teams' just don't work out? Add a QB to the room and I think everyone falls in line behind him. He's the quarterback and that's the way football works.

Or maybe if you add someone like Hill or Brown to a vacuum (there were no studs in place in Philly or Miami when he got there) you can get away with it.

But in KC we have a first ballot HoFer and an emerging WR talent who's won a championship as the primary WR on this squad. There's going to be some jockeying there. Right, wrong or otherwise, I don't think it's going to be seamless kumbayah here.

I think the Chiefs need to continue to develop in-house. Take care of your own guys when you can because they're established in the culture and understand the ropes. Spend some money on some ring-chasers or secondary options. Keep your pick capital as intact as possible to add 'Dudes' to the room wherever you can.

But I think shortcuts and fast infusions of premium talents (especially high ego positions like WR) are a little more complicated than we realize. They can upset the balance of a team and I think that's a lot more common than we realize.

A guy like Aiyuk is the kind of 'star' I'd want to add. Someone that's going to come in with stud ability but not the reputation or the ego just yet. Someone who can PROVE his way into that role instead of expect it. Someone who's likely going to dovetail well into the existing power structure.

I'd be pretty reluctant to hand-waive the ego side of this.

Agree with everything that you said except this part. Aiyuk is the kind of "star" that gets absolutely clowned and shut down in the biggest game. I'd rather keep the guys clowning him than lose them (and trade capital) to acquire him.

[Bearcat]

The Kelce Retirement Plan worry is one of the weirder narratives around here... and we worry about some stupid shit.

The roster is limited most by the salary cap, not some magic Franchise TE button... despite Mahomes not needing the best receiver group in the league and it being a possible strategy on where money goes, they sure as hell would have kept Tyreek, too. Skyy wasn't a product of "well, we don't have to worry much about the receiver group so YOLO".. if they could have 3 WR1s and 2 franchise TEs, they'd already have all of it. They theoretically want every TE they draft to be the next Kelce, whether he's his replacement or traded for cool stuff.

Obviously, if Kelce retired tomorrow, they'd dedicate more time to scouting the position, but outside of that, there's really nothing to talk about.

The "plan" is to do exactly what you do for every other roster spot, find the best available person while considering the constraints. WTF it's a worry in every thread is beyond me (well, besides the italics above)...

[Pitt Gorilla]

What did the Ravens have to give up to draft Likely? A 4th rounder? I think I prefer that model of talent acquisition.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

You are 1 for 1 in promoting shitty offense and punting.

Oof so weak.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The risk involved in pretty substantial. Let's say we do this and it is backloaded. Say JJ tears his ACL or ruptures his Achilles.

Now you're good and well ****ed. The money is paid regardless and you've set 2 first rd picks, a second and a day 3 pick on fire to acquire him weakening the team being unable to draft cheap talented players.

That's the kinda thing that ruins a dynasty. At that point you're going through what the Broncos are going through, which would make Patrick's life harder.

Trust your GM. Gain flexibility and keep drafting well

This team is deep and a quick way to stop being that is by throwing a bunch of picks at any non QB position.