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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




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Old 07-24-2018, 11:09 AM   #2356
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I'm coming around to that realization. You see the talent on other contenders..... we are not even close.
And the worrying reality is that virtually all those teams have more impact prospects in their system than we do.

Most of them don't have the depth of likely contributors we have; the pile of JAGs that makes up most of our 25 man, let alone the high minors. But the Astros have 3 guys who are likely better than our best, especially in terms of their ability to be truly great. And then they have guys like Derek Fisher who are effectively throwaway guys for them and they've put up better seasons that nearly all of our 'prized' prospects.

You think the Yankees are sitting there saying "well man just wait until next year when Albert Abreu gets here...." and he's generally as highly regarded as Flaherty was.

Boston and Chicago are pretty much cleaned out at this point but I don't think they care - they have money and young position players to spare. Not to mention genuine force multipliers in guys like Bryant and Betts - they'll get over not having Carson Kelly and Tyler O'Neill, I'm sure.

It isn't just that the present squad is so damn average, it's that the guys piling up behind them are as well. And Mozeliak has become so frozen by the possibility of making a mistake that he's just letting these piles of JAGS atrophy rather than flip them at peak value. He's going to have annual issues with his 40 man and the rule 5 because he can't just keep protecting these guys that have stacked up but haven't advanced.

Bottom line is that everyone has prospects and most of them can run with ours, especially in terms of upside. The product on the field is average and being supported by Indian Summer kind of performances from guys with noplace to go but down.

There are some assets there - they aren't the Orioles or Royals. But they're not going to be good for quite awhile and that's only if they get lucky and someone like Delvin Perez gets his shit figured out and Gorman turns out to be a homerun of a pick.
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Forbes 2018 team values

1. Yankees - $4 B
2. Dodgers - $3 B
3. Cubs - $2.9 B
4. Giants - $2.85 B
5. Red Sox - $2.8 B
6. Mets - $2.1 B
7. Cardinals - $1.9 B
8. Angels - $1.8 B
9. Phillies - $1.7 B
10. Nationals - $1.675 B
11. Astros - $1.65 B
12. Braves - $1.625 B
13. Rangers - $1.6 B
14. White Sox - $1.5 B
15. Mariners - $1.45 B
16. Blue Jays - $1.35 B
17. Padres - $1.27 B
18. Pirates - $1.26 B
19. Tigers - $1.225 B
20. Diamondbacks - $1.21 B
21. Orioles - $1.2 B
22. Twins - $1.15 B
23. Rockies - $1.1 B
24. Indians - $1.045 B
25. Brewers - $1.03 B
26. Athletics - $1.02 B
27. Royals - $1.015 B
28. Reds - $1.01 B
29. Marlins - $1 B
30. Rays - $900 M
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