Chiefs RAPOPORT: Steve Spagnuolo, Dennis Allen, John Pagano names to watch at DC - Page 15

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05:45 PM

Just heard on NFL Total Access.... FWIW. https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/...864004097?s=21

Allen, the Saints DC, is a free agent for those who may read that and wonder.

O.city · 01-22-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Bob Sutton never worked with Andy.

Andy isn’t going to hire someone he doesn’t have some kind of history with I doubt

O.city · 01-22-2019, 08:37 PM

Ray Horton would be on my list

crazycoffey · 01-22-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Andy isn’t gonna go way out of his comfort zone and I’m guessing it’ll be someone already there

See. I’m feeling just the opposite. Now I don’t know if Andy knows or not, but he needs an opposite

**The Bad Guy** · 01-22-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think he's that bad. Its a lukewarm hire. But at the same time, you gotta feel for the guy. Interim during bountygate is a brutal situation. Interim taking over the disaster mcadoo left behind isn't easy either. He has all the tools to be an excellent coach. I would love it as an advisory role. It could work out if he's paired with someone who pushes him to innovate. Unlike Rex, his scheme is probably a bit more adaptable.

"I don't think he's that bad" is exactly how some referred to Sutton.

If you want to ignore, his most recent resume, don't be shocked when it repeats itself here. Spags sucks.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-22-2019, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Andy isn’t going to hire someone he doesn’t have some kind of history with I doubt

I don't agree. If it was offense, yes, I think Andy wants a history.

Defense? I don't think he's married to his coaching tree. He wants to stay completely out of the defense.

suzzer99 · 01-22-2019, 08:39 PM

Can't we grab some assistant off the Ravens?

O.city · 01-22-2019, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't agree. If it was offense, yes, I think Andy wants a history.

Defense? I don't think he's married to his coaching tree. He wants to stay completely out of the defense.

He had some connections to Sutton, i don’t remember what they were

I can’t see him going out of his comfort zone

**dannybcaitlyn** · 01-22-2019, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Can't we grab some assistant off the Ravens?

I want Mike Macdonald

suzzer99 · 01-22-2019, 08:41 PM

And that's another thing - if Andy is so damn good at developing offensive schemes - why can't he help out with the defense?

I mean he has to know what kind of tendencies annoy him as an offensive play designer, what types of players he has to look out for, what types of schemes are hard to carve up.

That's how Elway said he picked players - and he did draft a pretty good defense.

It's not like Armageddon where some know how to be astronauts and the other know how to me miners. The two things are freaking inter-connected.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2019, 08:41 PM

Macdonald is clearly the best candidate that is realistic. If we pull some ****ing bullshit like promoting from within or hiring a disastrous retread while a candidate like that is out there because of "familiarity", then I'd be pretty ****ing disappointed in Reid.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-22-2019, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

He had some connections to Sutton, i don’t remember what they were

I can’t see him going out of his comfort zone

What connection? Then every coach in the NFL has a connection to each other. There's 6 degrees with all of them. He'd have the same connections to Rex then.

The whole comfort zone thing is nonsense. He hired Sutton, who wasn't apart of his coaching tree. He hasn't coached with Spags in almost 15 years.

Titty Meat · 01-22-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Ray Horton would be on my list

I used to love Horton but didnt he kind of flame out?

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I used to love Horton but didnt he kind of flame out?

Yeah and hasn’t done shit.

crazycoffey · 01-22-2019, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Well, it's time for a ****ing reality check. We've been knocked out of the playoffs 3 years straight because we've been victimized by physical run games.

Its also time for another reality check. When you’re losing going into the second half of a conference championship, run stats (on offense and defense) go out the ****ing window

chiefzilla1501 · 01-22-2019, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

"I don't think he's that bad" is exactly how some referred to Sutton.

If you want to ignore, his most recent resume, don't be shocked when it repeats itself here. Spags sucks.

Not ignoring his resume. Like I said, hire would be lukewarm. Just saying calling him terrible because of Bountygate and the McAdoo fiasco is a bit unfair. He had an excellent defense in 2016 until the entire locker room went into mutiny against McAdoo. Listening to his ex players, they'd run through a brick wall for him. I'm really intrigued at him in a co-coordinator or advisory role. If you got a lot of Spagnuolo's coaching and less of the scheme that might work nicely. Is that realistic? Who knows.

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suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $2624284	And that's another thing - if Andy is so damn good at developing offensive schemes - why can't he help out with the defense? I mean he has to know what kind of tendencies annoy him as an offensive play designer, what types of players he has to look out for, what types of schemes are hard to carve up. That's how Elway said he picked players - and he did draft a pretty good defense. It's not like Armageddon where some know how to be astronauts and the other know how to me miners. The two things are freaking inter-connected.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2119655	Macdonald is clearly the best candidate that is realistic. If we pull some **ing bullshit like promoting from within or hiring a disastrous retread while a candidate like that is out there because of "familiarity", then I'd be pretty **ing disappointed in Reid.
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