Chiefs Dontari Poe will miss camp due to back injury - Page 15

RunKC · 07-28-2015, 02:20 PM

@DannyParkins: Dontari Poe will miss training camp. #Chiefs

@ChiefsReporter: Dontari Poe will be resting until after #ChiefsCamp. Won't participate in team practices.

@pgsween: #Chiefs DT Dontari Poe had a herniated disk in his back and had successful surgery on July 15. He is doing great & will be up to camp Fri.

staylor26 · 07-30-2015, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ;11627724

How would going with a lighter formation compensate for losing a 345 lbs NT?

Bc we don't have another 345 lb NT?

RunKC · 07-30-2015, 12:26 PM

I think it just depends on who we are playing. I would play more of a 4-3 against the Texans bc they will most likely try to run. And Mallett scares nobody.

Vs Denver I think we should start out with the nickel and if not switch to the original 3-4 base with Bailey,DeVito and Howard.

staylor26 · 07-30-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I think it just depends on who we are playing. I would play more of a 4-3 against the Texans bc they will most likely try to run. And Mallett scares nobody.

Vs Denver I think we should start out with the nickel and if not switch to the original 3-4 base with Bailey,DeVito and Howard.

When we run a 4-3 we might as well use Berry/Branch as our third LB if they aren't confident in Ramik.

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Bc we don't have another 345 lb NT?

Our defense was trash against the run with a 345 in the middle. Now that we've lost him you want to take a defensive lineman off the field?

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 12:31 PM

With as often as we move a safety into the box in nickel formations, you're talking about taking a DL and LB off the field in favor of a CB and S.

staylor26 · 07-30-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

With as often as we move a safety into the box in nickel formations, you're talking about taking a DL and LB off the field in favor of a CB and S.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about when we have 4 down linemen on 2nd and long type situations. Sutton gets pretty creative with his formations based on the situations. If it's 2nd & 8/9 having an extra S like Branch would help against the pass while not killing us against the run. You still have 4 down linemen.

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

That's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about when we have 4 down linemen on 2nd and long type situations. Sutton gets pretty creative with his formations based on the situations. If it's 2nd & 8/9 having an extra S like Branch would help against the pass while not killing us against the run. You still have 4 down linemen.

Explain to me these possible formations and their respective personnel

Discuss Thrower · 07-30-2015, 01:02 PM

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ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 01:05 PM

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Throw up the Bat-signal

RunKC · 07-30-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Our defense was trash against the run with a 345 in the middle. Now that we've lost him you want to take a defensive lineman off the field?

Our ILB's were the biggest issue with our run defense. They couldn't tackle, read a play or shed blockers. Look at the Oakland game in Oakland where we gave up the long TD run.

And as much as I like Parker and Abdullah in pass pro, they aren't good vs the run. And Kurt Coleman was a tackle missing machine.

I would expect getting DeVito and DJ back, along with a good run stuffer like Branch will help us become better.

Not saying we will be top 10 against the run, but I think they could be decent.

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 01:07 PM

I don't think he realizes that the four "down linemen" aren't all defensive linemen. Unless he's advocating taking Houston and Hali/Ford off the field in favor of Catapano and Howard... Which actually sounds like something he might suggest.

staylor26 · 07-30-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Explain to me these possible formations and their respective personnel

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/5...as-city-chiefs

Essentially this with Branch/Berry instead of Coleman. Houston and Tamba would be standing up but on the line. DeVito/Howard would be in Poe's spot.

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/5...as-city-chiefs

Essentially this with Branch/Berry instead of Coleman. Houston and Tamba would be standing up but on the line.

Dude. That's a light nickel defense with a safety replacing the second ILB. 2-3-6. That's two defensive linemen (Bailey and Poe), three LBs (Houston, Hali, and Mauga) with 6 defensive backs (one of which, Abdullah, is in the box acting as a LB).

How in God's name do you think running such a light formation will help us compensate for losing Poe?

staylor26 · 07-30-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Dude. That's a light nickel defense with a safety replacing the second ILB. 2-3-6. That's two defensive linemen (Bailey and Poe), three LBs (Houston, Hali, and Mauga) with 6 defensive backs (one of which, Abdullah, is in the box acting as a LB).

How in God's name do you think running such a light formation will help us compensate for losing Poe?

Completely forgot to mention DJ instead of Owens with Abdullah playing nickel/safety depending on the offensive formation. It doesn't matter whether Houston/Hali are standing or with their hand in the dirt it's still basically the same formation.

ThaVirus · 07-30-2015, 01:26 PM

Your rose-colored glasses are extra rosey this evening.

You're essentially talking about replacing 345 lbs of man-child with 305 lbs of meh and saying we'll be no worse for wear.

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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1692369	I don't think he realizes that the four "down linemen" aren't all defensive linemen. Unless he's advocating taking Houston and Hali/Ford off the field in favor of Catapano and Howard... Which actually sounds like something he might suggest.
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1692369	Your rose-colored glasses are extra rosey this evening. You're essentially talking about replacing 345 lbs of man-child with 305 lbs of meh and saying we'll be no worse for wear.
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