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Old 08-29-2017, 10:06 AM   #1
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Ehinger looked like a long term solution at left guard, and with a high ceiling, before his ACL injury.
According to Clay he's garbage and has no chance to be the long term solution though
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:09 AM   #2
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According to Clay he's garbage and has no chance to be the long term solution though
Clay might as well just send me the $50 from the bet now.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:13 AM   #3
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According to Clay he's garbage and has no chance to be the long term solution though
I'm doing my best to ignore him and not get pulled into his trolling nonsense.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:27 AM   #4
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:37 PM   #5
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:44 PM   #6
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:56 PM   #7
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Seems like a possible Marvcus Patton.

I still just don't see any speed there. Aggressive as hell and has no problem getting downhill but he just doesn't look fast. I might have been to harsh on his ability to play a zone technique in that he doesn't seem quite as lost out there as I thought he might (just looking at a little bit of college tape), but he can do an okay job in zone.

He's not a DJ replacement long-term, IMO. If that exists on this roster it's either Eligwe or even Wilson. But man, if you can get a guy like Marvcus Patton for a future 4th, that's a hell of a deal.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:10 PM   #8
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Seems like a possible Marvcus Patton
Marvcus was a badass. I'd take that in a heartbeat.

NFL.com compared him to EJ Henderson, who was pretty damn good when healthy but only played 16 games three out of 11 seasons.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:23 PM   #9
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Marvcus was a badass. I'd take that in a heartbeat.

NFL.com compared him to EJ Henderson, who was pretty damn good when healthy but only played 16 games three out of 11 seasons.
Oh no doubt - Marvcus is a best case scenario.

Henderson seems fair as well; poor man's Marvcus in many ways. But I think Patton hit harder than Henderson. I could be selling Henderson short but I really don't recall Henderson being a true hammer in the middle.

Ragland, when healthy and confident, will become a guided missile out there IMO. He'll annihilate some guys.

I don't actually expect he'll be Marvcus Patton - that's a hell of an ask. But if there's a player who's game I could see his being modeled after, that's the guy. Consider him a 'top 10%' kind of outcome with Mike Maslowski being a bottom 10%. More likely than not he'll end up somewhere in between those outcomes.
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Seems like a possible Marvcus Patton.
Damn I had forgotten about him. I used to love me some Marvcus (where the **** does that name come from?).

He was with the Redskins before us if I remember correctly.

Damn he was a run smashing ILB.

Edit: This post made me google his name and his Wikipedia came up and it didn't disappoint.

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Patton was just 9-years-old when his father, an undercover detective in Los Angeles, was shot and killed in the line of duty. His mother, Barbara Patton, a former Women's National Football League player with the Los Angeles Dandelions,[1] taught Patton about football. Mother and son both played middle linebacker, with Barbara once breaking an opposing player's helmet.[2] “I thought it was really cool to tell my friends that my mom was a linebacker,” Patton once shared.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:07 PM   #11
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If the rest of the defense is good enough to allow Ragland to play between the tackles then he should be very effective. Logan and Ragland should improve our run defense dramatically. Those 2 will allow our safeties to play deeper and help in coverage.

Only if we can maintain containment though.

Houston, Ragland, DJ, Ford/Hali
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:12 PM   #12
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Greg Bedard of SI said this about Ragland in 2016:

If you want to know what kind of player Ragland will be in the NFL, just watch him against Michigan State’s pro-style offense in this year’s College Football Playoff semifinals. On the first play he took on a fullback in the hole, shed him and made the tackle. On the second, he took on a pulling guard and assisted on a one-yard gain. On the third, he stood up as an end (Alabama used him as a situational pass rusher), shed the tackle and took down the quarterback for a loss.

He’s not going to wow anyone in coverage (though he’s fine in zone), and that will concern some teams, but NFL defense still boils down to getting off blocks and making tackles. His skill set may be from another decade, but there’s still very much a place for Ragland in the league.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:25 PM   #13
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Greg Bedard of SI said this about Ragland in 2016:

If you want to know what kind of player Ragland will be in the NFL, just watch him against Michigan State’s pro-style offense in this year’s College Football Playoff semifinals. On the first play he took on a fullback in the hole, shed him and made the tackle. On the second, he took on a pulling guard and assisted on a one-yard gain. On the third, he stood up as an end (Alabama used him as a situational pass rusher), shed the tackle and took down the quarterback for a loss.

He’s not going to wow anyone in coverage (though he’s fine in zone), and that will concern some teams, but NFL defense still boils down to getting off blocks and making tackles. His skill set may be from another decade, but there’s still very much a place for Ragland in the league.
That's pretty much exactly the way I'd put it.
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If anything our run defense just got better. Maybe he isn't fast enough to be Replacement DJ but who cares since he has a rookie contract and all we gave up was a conditional 4th. A thumper is worth that for sure.
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