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Old 01-20-2019, 09:17 PM  
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:29 AM   #196
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Oh I know it would’ve been Ya-Sin or Murphy, but those guys slipping to the 2nd while Collier went 29th means those guys likely were not 1st round talents, and that makes it all the more unlikely we would’ve gotten an immediate impact.
So a guy going in the 2nd means they weren't first round talents?
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:29 AM   #197
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For the price they are paying for Clark, you need him to be the 2nd best defender in the league.

That's a pretty tall task
No, you “need” him to be an elite edge rusher and help lead this team to a SB.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:31 AM   #198
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So a guy going in the 2nd means they weren't first round talents?
Yea considering there are never 32 first round talents in any draft and this one was particularly weak.

That’s clearly how 32 teams felt, or at least the majority of them. That’s what I’m trying to say.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:31 AM   #199
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So a guy going in the 2nd means they weren't first round talents?
Not to mention the teams picking 29-32 had absolutely no need for a CB and the guys we wanted went 33 and 34. Odd reasoning.
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Yea considering there are never 32 first round talents in any draft and this one was particularly weak.

That’s clearly how 32 teams felt, or at least the majority of them. That’s what I’m trying to say.
So Chris Jones wasn't a first round talent?
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:33 AM   #201
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So Chris Jones wasn't a first round talent?
I thought he was, just like I thought Murphy was.

Jones would’ve went in the 1st in this draft. That was one of the deepest DL drafts ever and a damn good draft overall. This draft was nowhere near as good.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:33 AM   #202
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Not to mention the teams picking 29-32 had absolutely no need for a CB and the guys we wanted went 33 and 34. Odd reasoning.
Sure. We also see guys taken in the 2nd every year provide pretty immediate impact.

I'm not sure I'd have been that excited about either of those CB's to be honest though either.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:34 AM   #203
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I thought he was, just like I thought Murphy was.

Jones would’ve went in the 1st in this draft. That was one of the deepest DL drafts ever and a damn good draft overall.
But according to your rhetoric, 32 NFL teams didn't think he was.

I did like Murphy though too, kinda forgot about him.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:37 AM   #204
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But according to your rhetoric, 32 NFL teams didn't think he was.
They clearly didn’t think he was. That doesn’t mean he 100% wasn’t. I’m not talking in absolutes here buddy. I’m not saying that Murphy or Ya-Sin can’t be. I’m saying it’s unlikely.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:39 AM   #205
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They clearly didn’t think he was. That doesn’t mean he 100% wasn’t. I’m not talking in absolutes here buddy. I’m not saying that Murphy or Ya-Sin can’t be. I’m saying it’s unlikely.
Eh, if guys are going picks 33 and 34, i'd say teams had them pretty much as first rounders. It's a semantical argument anyway so it's W/E.
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https://overthecap.com/player/frank-clark/3911/

Not really getting away from Clark until the age 30 year it looks like.
Clark is supposed to be a cornerstone....
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Eh, if guys are going picks 33 and 34, i'd say teams had them pretty much as first rounders. It's a semantical argument anyway so it's W/E.
Apparently you missed my point about this being a particularly weak draft when there are almost never 32 first round talents in any draft according to the pros. This draft ****ing sucked at the top and it was well known, are you forgetting that now?

It’s pretty obvious that at the very least the majority of the league did not see those guys as 1st round talents. You can argue with me all you want, but you’re wrong per usual.
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Apparently you missed my point about this being a particularly weak draft when there’s never 32 first round talents in any draft according to the pros. This draft ****ing sucked at the top and it was well known, are you forgetting that now?

It’s pretty obvious that at the very least the majority of the league did not see those guys as 1st round talents. You can argue with me all you want, but you’re wrong per usual.
Sure, weak draft and all.

All teams talked about was how you could get starters thru the what, 3rd round?

But those guys won't be immediate contributors because they were taken with picks 33 and 34 yet i'm guessing you're gonna say a guy like Thornhill will be because?
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The draft was top heavy then dropped off pretty quickly after about, pick 5?

I'm no Bosa fan, but he was pretty highly thought of, along with Williams and the dude from Kentucky.
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The Chiefs obviously weren't that high on any of those CB's otherwise they probably don't make the Clark deal.

Or they were just that high on Clark, which I'm thinking was the deal.
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