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Petco has less OF grass than the K, so I'm not sure it caters to Hosmer's strengths any better than the K does, but it's possible the change in scenery and big contract help Hosmer adjust (though it's just as possible the pressure from those items takes him the other way). He took off in May of last year by embracing an approach that included hitting the ball up the middle and the other way more often. I think he can continue that and be a consistent hitter (.300/.360/.475-.500, depending how many HR he walks into)... at least as long as his natural talents can support his crazy, complicated swing.
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That's gonna be the key for him. The long-term security and the fact that the Padres will suck next year either way has to convince him that he's willing to write-off all/part of a season while he rebuilds his swing into something that will age better. Gonna be a tough sell to make to a proud guy sporting a $20 million/season AAV, but it could pay off long-term. His hands/wrists won't allow him to get away with that kind of rusty gate approach to swinging the bat for much longer, IMO.
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That seems....unwise.
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As DJ pointed out, shipping off all assets that won't be around to help in your next contention window IS the best route to rebuilding these days. Whether they get there depends on what happens with Hosmer, IMO, because with him, you can project having Hosmer, Perez, Duffy, Merrifield, and a few others to build around as a contending team in 2019, 2020. Without him, it's hard to see the rebuild being that short. You're looking more at 2021 as the hopeful start of the next wave/window. I think they're open to moving anyone if Hosmer signs elsewhere. I think it's highly, highly likely now that at least Soria and Herrera are moved, regardless. With Scott Alexander and Whit Merrifield, you have so much control of them still that KC could hold them. I think Alexander would fetch a nice return, though maybe not as nice of one as he would return at the deadline if he's sitting on 15-20 saves and has shown the same dominance and crazy groundball tendencies he did in 2017. The real questions are Duffy and Perez. It would be very tough from a PR perspective to move them, but they're hugely valuable chips and would do more than anyone else to rebuild the team. Duffy's value would be somewhere close to Jose Quintana's when the white sox moved him. Perez's return would have to be monumental for the team to be able to do it. I do agree that Hammel will be on the block and they'll shop him hard. Moore's recent history doesn't matter if he's going into rebuild mode. The moves you make when you're trying to rebuild are entirely different than the ones you make when you're trying to supplement and fill in the final pieces for a team set up to contend.
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Wasn't there a rumor that Hosmer listened hard to Carlos Beltran when he said "get your first contract on steals and batting average, get your second contract on HRs"?
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Rebuilding just means they won't try to add any significant parts to the existing squad. We will play whatever we already have and start working towards the next few drafts. In the mean time, Burns/Orlando/Gordon/Boni/Soler in the OF, Moss/Dozier at first, Cuthbert and Mondesi will fill out the infield. If they just want to shave some payroll, the only moves that make sense are Duffy, Hererra, Kennedy and Hammell. (edit - oops...and Soria).
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I would contend that both Duffy and Perez are more valuable than Grienke was. He was a rental and was known as a player who didn't care about his team. Duffy and Perez have very friendly long term deals and clubhouse character in spades.
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Again...I know that seems to make sense...but name one executive that is ready to restock our system with trades for either of those guys. MAYBE at the trade deadline. Other GM's are inquiring, because if we're rebuilding...they want to see if they can get a bargain. Few clubs will offer what we want if they feel they have leverage because they believe rebuilding for us means every player must go.
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Perez's relatively affordable contract would be very appealing to them. As would his impact on a relatively young pitching staff. He's a perfect fit for that team. As for Duffy - who wouldn't want a lefty with plus stuff? I don't think he has Quintana's value, but Quintana returned a top 10 prospect and another top 75 guy. Duffy could probably return two top 50 guys pretty easily. Why wouldn't the Blue Jays discuss Alford and Bichette for Duffy? Hell, you know you who call? The New York Yankees. You send them Duffy, they send you Clint Frazier, Chance Adams and Dustin Fowler. You take a big swing with them and they probably counter with Frazier, Andujar and Acevedo. It's not at all farfetched. If you could turn Duffy and Salvy into Frazier, Adell, Thiess, Adujar, Canning and Acevedo....jesus, you've loaded that system to the gills. That's probably a little higher return than you'd get but you're dabbling in the margins, IMO. That's two incredibly toolsy young OFers, your corner IF of the future with a couple of nice polished hitters, a high end (seriously high end) young arm in Acevedo and a high floor almost certain 3rd starter in Canning. You'd be well on your way to competing, if not contending, by 2021 if you supplement those deals with smart acquisitions.
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Depends on your definition of "restocking" the farm. Team control is probably the biggest asset in baseball right now. Four years of Danny Duffy at an AAV of $13 million and four years of Salvador Perez at an AAV of $12 million would hold real value. I agree that Duffy isn't going to fetch Jose Quintana-level returns - not quite - but he'd be close-ish. The Cubs are checking in, which means they start with Happ or Schwarber on that deal. Neither is a prospect anymore, but Happ has six years of control remaining and proved he can succeed at the MLB level (and was a top 20-25 guy entering last season; if anything, his value is perhaps a little more). Same with Salvador Perez. He's very good and controlled for a long period of time. Teams pay more now for very good + control than they do for great + no control (in general). If the Royals moved both of those guys in separate trades, I'd expect to add 3-5 top 100 prospects (maybe one around top 25, a few top 50) and 2-3 more "pieces." A Duffy for Happ trade straight up would be pretty close to done. Might get a little more. While Duffy to the Yankees would suck, that may be the best match if they get to it. Frazier + Adams would be pretty enticing. The Salvador Perez-angels trade proposal/idea is a pretty good one. Jo Addell is someone the Royals really liked entering last year's draft. Not sure where he ends up on 2018 lists, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a top 50ish ranking. The Brewers also seem like a good match to me for Perez. They have OFs coming out their ears.
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