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Old 01-01-2022, 11:07 AM  
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***Official 2022 Royals Season Repository Thread***

For all things Royals in 2022. #3 minor league system according to Baseball America. The Bobby Witt era should begin this year. Will Salvy still be the homerun king? How does the glut of infield players work out? Will the young pitchers take the next step?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Zack Greinke, P
Amir Garrett, P
Taylor Clarke, P

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Bobby Witt, SS
2. Asa Lacy, P
3. MJ Melendez, C
4. Nick Pratto, 1B
5. Jackson Kowar, P
6. Kyle Isabel, OF
7. Frank Mozzicato, P
8. Ben Kudrna, P
9. Jonathan Bowlan, P
10. Vinnie Pasquantino, 1B

Duncan's Top Royals Prospects
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:10 PM   #2011
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These youtube guys are pimping the Royals. Lots of young talent and they aren't that "far away from turning the corner."

Except that winning does require pitching.
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:13 PM   #2012
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These youtube guys are pimping the Royals. Lots of young talent and they aren't that "far away from turning the corner."

Except that winning does require pitching.
New coaching staff and they would.
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:16 PM   #2013
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The tide of negativity is because, despite the success of his first 10 years on the job, he has not adjusted well to the changes in the landscape since he got the job.

The draft landscape changed in 2012. The Royals took half a decade to adjust to those changes effectively.

The development landscape has been vastly improved over the past decade, too, and the Royals have been slow to take advantage of everything now available.

Throw in bad messaging from the front office personnel this year, and hiring an unpopular and ineffective coaching staff, and this is what you land with.
I think the organization is in good shape. The MLB coaching staff should be required to take cannabis gummies before being around any of the players.

Team needs to loosen up. maybe set up a card table in the bullpen and have Matheny and the coaches play go fish during the game and let the players coach themselves.
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:16 PM   #2014
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Way to go Royals. Nice job, keep it up!
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:20 PM   #2015
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New coaching staff and they would.
Well yeah, it's a better chance to develop our talent than what we are currently doing.

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Old 06-01-2022, 12:23 PM   #2016
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Way to go Royals. Nice job, keep it up!
This is the sort of energy we need to get our boys in blue back to .500!!
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Old 06-01-2022, 12:54 PM   #2018
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I think the organization is in good shape. The MLB coaching staff should be required to take cannabis gummies before being around any of the players.

Team needs to loosen up. maybe set up a card table in the bullpen and have Matheny and the coaches play go fish during the game and let the players coach themselves.
I think that:

Yes, the young talent pool is in good shape. They have fixed the hitting development issues, and it's bearing good fruit. Witt, Melendez, Isbel, Olivares, Pasquantino, Loftin, Massey... some really exciting guys.

They have a lot of raw pitching ability and depth, running from the majors down a few levels.

I also believe strongly that they don't have close to a good organization in place to shepherd and develop that talent at the major league level.

Matheny: Sucks with young players and always has
Eldred: Had no track record before KC as pitching coach, has been a disaster here, and is a dinosaur who distrusts data
Grifol: An absolute FRAUD

Alex Zumwalt is the only member of the major league staff I trust in the slightest.

They've got some nice ingredients. But they're handing them to a chef who history suggests he's going to burn and overprocess all those nice ingredients.

Even prime KC Strip tastes like trash if you overcook it.
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Old 06-01-2022, 01:08 PM   #2020
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I think that:

Yes, the young talent pool is in good shape. They have fixed the hitting development issues, and it's bearing good fruit. Witt, Melendez, Isbel, Olivares, Pasquantino, Loftin, Massey... some really exciting guys.

They have a lot of raw pitching ability and depth, running from the majors down a few levels.

I also believe strongly that they don't have close to a good organization in place to shepherd and develop that talent at the major league level.

Matheny: Sucks with young players and always has
Eldred: Had no track record before KC as pitching coach, has been a disaster here, and is a dinosaur who distrusts data
Grifol: An absolute FRAUD

Alex Zumwalt is the only member of the major league staff I trust in the slightest.

They've got some nice ingredients. But they're handing them to a chef who history suggests he's going to burn and overprocess all those nice ingredients.

Even prime KC Strip tastes like trash if you overcook it.
You make some good points.
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Damon and Dye were both way gone before Sweeney got a contract extension you worthless turd.
I think you are confusing me with Mike Sweeney. The Royals dealt Damon to the A's at the start of the 2001 season because ownership wanted to cut payroll and would only pay one "star" position player. They chose Sweeney over Damon and Dye. Beltran was just coming up. They traded Dye to Oakland during the 2001 season for Neifi Perez -which, if you're looking for worthless turds that's you guy. Then when Sweeney's contract had kicked in, they couldn't afford to keep budding superstar Beltran so they traded him to Houston in 2004 for John Buck, Mark Teahen and Mike Wood.

Dye played for Oakland in the 2002 ALDS and Damon went on to win a World Series with Boston in 2004.

Meanwhile, Sweeney never played in a playoff game for the Royals. Not ever. Despite that, over the five year contract Royals paid Sweeney $55 million of the $257 million total payroll during those five years. In 2003 he was 23% of the total team payroll; 2004 30%, 2005 23%, 2006 16% and 2007 19%. In those five years, the Royals were a .400 baseball club.

He kept every dime.

So yeah, the Royals were stupid to pay him, but Sweeney made out like a bandit, only playing in about 40% of the games during that contract.

You can call me names, but the numbers don't lie.

This isn't even the worst contract in MLB from that era. The Mets Bobby Bonilla contract is the "hold my beer" contract!

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Old 06-01-2022, 02:22 PM   #2022
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I think you are confusing me with Mike Sweeney. The Royals dealt Damon to the A's at the start of the 2001 season because ownership wanted to cut payroll and would only pay one "star" position player. They chose Sweeney over Damon and Dye. Beltran was just coming up. They traded Dye to Oakland during the 2001 season for Neifi Perez -which, if you're looking for worthless turds that's you guy. Then when Sweeney's contract had kicked in, they couldn't afford to keep budding superstar Beltran so they traded him to Houston in 2004 for John Buck, Mark Teahen and Mike Wood.

Dye played for Oakland in the 2002 ALDS and Damon went on to win a World Series with Boston in 2004.

Meanwhile, Sweeney never played in a playoff game for the Royals. Not ever. Despite that, over the five year contract Royals paid Sweeney $55 million of the $257 million total payroll during those five years. In 2003 he was 23% of the total team payroll; 2004 30%, 2005 23%, 2006 16% and 2007 19%. In those five years, the Royals were a .400 baseball club.

He kept every dime.

So yeah, the Royals were stupid to pay him, but Sweeney made out like a bandit, only playing in about 40% of the games during that contract.

You can call me names, but the numbers don't lie.

This isn't even the worst contract in MLB from that era. The Mets Bobby Bonilla contract is the "hold my beer" contract!

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...y-every-july-1
You are the dumb ass who thinks they kept Sweeney and didn't want the other guys just because of Sweeney. When two of the guys weren't even on the roster when Sweeney got his contract extension.
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Old 06-01-2022, 02:24 PM   #2023
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I am still considering whether or not to go the game on the 12th. Going through KC on way back home so would be an easy stopover Saturday night. I generally get and pay for a really good seat. But you add in the extras (hotel/food/drink) and I wonder “why the hell would I when the team is such hot garbage?”

Would like to see the young talent we have. But clearly being horribly developed and managed just p-sses me off.
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You are the dumb ass who thinks they kept Sweeney and didn't want the other guys just because of Sweeney. When two of the guys weren't even on the roster when Sweeney got his contract extension.
They had to clear the roster because they knew they couldn't meet the demands of all three players at the same time. Sorry you can't grasp the team forecasting payroll. They picked the wrong guy. Sweeney did fine in his first contract. When he got his extension he tanked, and never justified the money they paid him. We got five years of baseball siberia because of that deal. Hey, I know he got hurt. Then he got hurt. Then the year after that he was hurt. He was Mondi 15 years before Mondi. At least Mondi saw a World Series.
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They had to clear the roster because they knew they couldn't meet the demands of all three players at the same time. Sorry you can't grasp the team forecasting payroll. They picked the wrong guy. Sweeney did fine in his first contract. When he got his extension he tanked, and never justified the money they paid him. We got five years of baseball siberia because of that deal. Hey, I know he got hurt. Then he got hurt. Then the year after that he was hurt. He was Mondi 15 years before Mondi. At least Mondi saw a World Series.
DJ's nut was right. You are just a worthless troll at this point who can't ****ing get anything right.
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