Chiefs Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate - Page 133

Dante84 · 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM

In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?

RunKC · 03-01-2021, 11:16 AM

Breeland is 29 and wants paid, Ward is here 1 more year before someone gives him big money, Baker just broke his goddamn femur and Fenton is a solid #3.

Taking a corner early would be very responsible assuming a talented one is there.

O.city · 03-01-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A first round pick is the opposite of "big resources". The pick itself has value but a big part of that value is having a high-dollar position like CB locked up on a rookie salary for the next 5 years.

A first round pick is a big resource.

My philosophy has changed a bit regards to CB's. I woudln't pay one big money either unless he's legitimately a Ramsey type CB.

O.city · 03-01-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Breeland is 29 and wants paid, Ward is here 1 more year before someone gives him big money, Baker just broke his goddamn femur and Fenton is a solid #3.

Taking a corner early would be very responsible assuming a talented one is there.

Sneed, Baker, Fenton.

There you go.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Breeland is 29 and wants paid

No one is paying Breeland big bucks.

He'll be nearly 30 when the season begins and if a big contract was going to happen, it would have happened last year, before his incident. Instead, he re-signed with the Chiefs for $4 million.

The days of a big contract are over for Breeland.

RunKC · 03-01-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No one is paying Breeland big bucks.

He'll be nearly 30 when the season begins and if a big contract was going to happen, it would have happened last year, before his incident. Instead, he re-signed with the Chiefs for $4 million.

The days of a big contract are over for Breeland.

According to over the cap we have paid less than $3 million for Breeland in each year he’s been here.

Considering top end corners get $18-20 million now, I could totally see a team with a ton of cap space offering a deal to him worth $6 million and Veach choosing to pass.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

According to over the cap we have paid less than $3 million for Breeland in each year he’s been here.

Considering top end corners get $18-20 million now, I could totally see a team with a ton of cap space offering a deal to him worth $6 million and Veach choosing to pass.

Maybe, but that team is making a huge leap of faith in a guy that doesn't deserve that leap.

And there's just no way that any team is rewarding a 30 year old CB with an offseason history like Breeland's with a huge contract, which is why he's been available on the cheap for the past three seasons.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-01-2021, 12:09 PM

185? this season 220? next. Strange things may happen to only make sense later

Hoover · 03-01-2021, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

If Breeland leaves there should be a few bargain vets out there just as good.

I don'r understand those who feel Breeland is JAG...

Dude's done everything asked of him and has been great.

I'd rather have him back than Sorenson.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I don'r understand those who feel Breeland is JAG...

Dude's done everything asked of him and has been great.

I'd rather have him back than Sorenson.

He's good. He replaceable.

Colts signed Xavier Rhodes for 3 million last year.

I think a guy like Bouye or another good vet could end up doing a 1 or 2 year deal here in the 5 million or less ballpark.

Hoover · 03-01-2021, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

He's good. He replaceable.

Colts signed Xavier Rhodes for 3 million last year.

I think a guy like Bouye or another good vet could end up doing a 1 or 2 year deal here in the 5 million or less ballpark.

There are no question marks as to Breeland's fit in KC, so why move on from him to take a chance on another vet?

If the money is the same, I don't understand why one would change course.

**gblowfish** · 03-01-2021, 12:45 PM

Frank Clark's lack of production is a big problem. We've already spent a crapload on D-line. Jones gets double teamed and we get no pass rush. Clark runs straight upfield and takes himself out of plays constantly. Plus you can throw screens at his side all day long. He's sucking down our available bucks for zero return.

staylor26 · 03-01-2021, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Frank Clark's lack of production is a big problem. We've already spent a crapload on D-line. Jones gets double teamed and we get no pass rush. Clark runs straight upfield and takes himself out of plays constantly. Plus you can throw screens at his side all day long. He's sucking down our available bucks for zero return.

Wow that’s some serious hyperbole.

**penguinz** · 03-01-2021, 12:52 PM

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And I just watched his comments on Fisher.

Said he had surgery on 1/29 and according to his medical staff....a projected returned is August.

I have been saying he should be back for the opener and no one would believe me.

MahomesMagic · 03-01-2021, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

There are no question marks as to Breeland's fit in KC, so why move on from him to take a chance on another vet?

If the money is the same, I don't understand why one would change course.

I didn't say to change course. Just that if Breeland didn't want to sign we would have options.

Cosmos · 03-01-2021, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Sneed, Baker, Fenton.

There you go.

Not nearly enough for a 17 week season and a playoff run.

A second year player, a broken leg, and a slot cb.

Much work to do. Hope that Keyes makes the rotation as well.

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