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Old 12-15-2019, 05:05 PM  
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Will the Bills beat the Patriots next week?
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Old 12-21-2019, 04:09 PM   #181
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Man - Every throw Josh Allen makes is about 20 inches away from being decent.

He puts so many balls ALMOST where they're supposed to be. Just a little high, then just a little wide, then just a little short. Nothing that his guy can't get his hands on, but just enough off the mark that he makes the catch exponentially harder.

And his WR crew is...fine. But it's not a group of guys that are gonna pull him from the fire all that often.

I just don't know how he makes enough accurate passes to pull that game off. He's gonna throw 2 or 3 that come in hot and high/wide, deflect off a guy's hands and then just flutter up there for a big pick.

I just feel like that Patriots defense is a real bad matchup for a QB that who makes as many unforced misfires as Allen does.
Like I said - dude just cannot put the ball where he wants to put it.

Give him a clean pocket and plenty of time and he'll STILL just put the ball on a spot where it either can't be caught or is damn difficult to do anything with should you catch it. He's really holding this Bills team back. Brady's made 3 or 4 extremely accurate passes already that Allen couldn't have completed if he had to.

The Bills will have a hard cap for as long as Allen is their quarterback. They can't lean on this kid because that accuracy issue, while it may improve, is never going to go away.

Quarterbacks are accurate or they aren't. Very few of them ever actually develop significantly on that front.
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Old 12-21-2019, 04:27 PM   #182
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Like I said - dude just cannot put the ball where he wants to put it.



Give him a clean pocket and plenty of time and he'll STILL just put the ball on a spot where it either can't be caught or is damn difficult to do anything with should you catch it. He's really holding this Bills team back. Brady's made 3 or 4 extremely accurate passes already that Allen couldn't have completed if he had to.



The Bills will have a hard cap for as long as Allen is their quarterback. They can't lean on this kid because that accuracy issue, while it may improve, is never going to go away.



Quarterbacks are accurate or they aren't. Very few of them ever actually develop significantly on that front.


The third down when he missed the guy open over the middle by about six yards (on a seven hard throw) was terrible. Also when he missed that TD lass in the end zone. I told my wife ...”see Mahomes made that throw. That’s why we beat them”


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Old 12-21-2019, 04:29 PM   #183
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Yup DJ is right....the Bills can’t win in New England with the QB. He’s just not good enough.


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Old 12-21-2019, 04:32 PM   #185
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So I'm obviously a Bills fan and was curious to see what other AFC teams felt about the post-season this year, and if KC fans would be pulling for the Bills.

Surprised to see so much negativity from a team that could benefit from a Bills win.

Yes, New England has been Buffalo's daddy for 20 years, but in the last three years the Bills have been clawing away to respectability.

I think most of you know Buffalo is a defense first type team. That is a given.

I see a lot of posts where posters here say Buffalo has no chance because 'Josh Allen is garbage' and 'Their QB sucks' posts. I kind of shake my head at that. I thought KC fans knew more about football.

First off a lot of people like to laugh that Buffalo passed on Mahomes. Believe it or not this is a huge topic of discussion in Buffalo and WNY in general. The simple fact is that Mahomes fell into a perfect spot with Andy Reid and the offense that was pre built. The OL was solid, plenty of WR and some RB weapons (Especially with Kareem Hunt) and an offense first mindset. Mahomes would not be Mahomes in Buffalo. KC got the right QB at the right time, with the right coach and right skill set. We did end up with Tre White and a pick that allowed moves to get Josh Allen and Tremain Edmunds, so still good.

Buffalo was not ready for Mahomes, they needed a year to get their QB with a HC and GM change. They got a good one with Josh Allen. Honestly other than Lamar Jackson who from that draft would you want at QB?

To get back to point: 'Buffalo hasn't beaten any good teams'.

Because of standardized NFL schedules Buffalo and New England played 14 of the same 16 teams. NE had to play KC and Houston (both losses btw) and Buffalo played TN and DEN (both wins). Otherwise the schedule is 100% the same. And since when was Buffalo expected to win those games?

Buffalo went into Dallas on Thanksgiving (fighting for a division title), into TN (fighting for a division title) and Pittsburgh (playing for a wild card spot) and won all of them. Two were on the national stage (2-0). This team likes the national stage. Buffalo also likes being on the road. Buffalo is 6-1 on the road this year. The game against New England is on the road on a national stage.....

Buffalo played New England to a 16-10 loss and Baltimore to a 24-17 loss. Both were one score games. Josh Allen was knocked out of the end of the NE game on an illegal hit (not called). Buffalo lost on a blocked punt returned for a TD. NE scored 0 offensive TDs against Buffalo. Since Sean McDermott became HC Brady has 3 TD and 5 INT vs Buffalo. Buffalo also kept Lamar Jackson to under 200 combined yards. Credit to the Baltimore Defense.

'Well that proves Buffalo's Offense is trash'.

Well Buffalo doesn't score as much as KC or put up gaudy stats. True, but it plays complimentary football. Our rookie RB, Devin Singletary (5.1 ypc) was not available in the New England game. The Baltimore Defense did make Josh Allen one dimensional, but Baltimore has been a stud on both sides of the ball. They are the team to beat in the AFC, and Buffalo held them to about 300 yards and a 1 score game.

Josh Allen is a "garbage QB":

JA has thrown 9 INT all season. I believe none are pick 6. 3 INT came against New England alone.JA completion % is up almost 10% from his rookie year. NE has a way of making young QBs look bad. So 6 INT in 13 games after New England. Keep in mind Buffalo has played NE, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver and Tennessee all good defenses.

Josh Allen has passed for 18TDs and rushed for 9 more. (BTW Lamar Jackson has rushed for 8 TDs). So that is 27 TD for against 9 INT. A 3:1 TD to INT is good the way I look at it. Rushing TDs don't count in QBR, but JA has 17 rushing TDs in 25 career starts.

'Those are rushing stats, not a real QB metric':

OK, how about this: Josh Allen has 4 4th QTR comebacks, and 5 Game Winning drives this year alone. JA has started 25 games, finished 23 and already has 6 4th qtr comebacks and 8 game winning drives in his career. That may be more 4th Qtr comebcks and GWD than the rest of his class combined. I may be off. That does put Josh Allen tied at 26th in the NFL since 1960. Let that sink in. In 25 starts, Allen is already tied 26th since 1960. He is clutch, if you need more proof, Josh Allen's 4th quarter QB Rating this year is 114, 2nd highest in the NFL.

JA reminds me of a year 1-2 Russell Wilson. In yr 1 and 2 RW was not asked to carry the load. The Seahawks kept games close and the let RW do his thing in the 4th quarter. Buffalo is following the same blueprint, without a Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.

JA won't put up huge numbers in Buffalo's scheme, but he is not asked to. Play the game close, get to the 4th quarter in a one score game, and then let loose.

I want Buffalo to win at New England more than anything. I think you do too.

I also don't want Buffalo traveling to Arrow Head in the first round.

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