Let's talk Wide Receivers - Page 12

ToxSocks · 03-06-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I still think there are a lot of day 2 dudes like Mims, Palmer, Reed, Perry, Iosivas, and Ford-Wheaton thst have had good days.

It's just the bigger names that have been a little disappointing.

Rounds 2-3 seems like the sweet spot.

Agreed. The more i watch, the more i think the Chiefs won't be taking a WR in round 1. That next tier of guys with your Mingo and Mimms etc seems like where the money is anyway.

staylor26 · 03-06-2023, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Agreed. The more i watch, the more i think the Chiefs won't be taking a WR in round 1. That next tier of guys with your Mingo and Mimms etc seems like where the money is anyway.

Addison, Hyatt, and Flowers are the only guys I'd consider at 31. Johnston and JSN aren't gettin to 31.

But yea, ultimately we're likely not taking one until day 2.

O.city · 03-06-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Addison, Hyatt, and Flowers are the only guys I'd consider at 31. Johnston and JSN aren't gettin to 31.

But yea, ultimately we're likely not taking one until day 2.

With picking at 31, I would be a bit more open to it, but man, I just don't know that Addison Hyatt or Flowers end up being......#2 guys at their peak?

Which where we're picking and with our current situation..sign me the **** up for that, but I think I could get a guy in the 2nd to do that while taking a potential pass rusher or DT at 31 who could be more.

JPH83 · 03-04-2023, 04:50 PM

Honestly, just makes me feel even better about the Toney trade. I'm a little surprised by the numbers, but to honest I was also surprised by some of the hype happening on predicted numbers. I've kinda gone full circle and I'm back to thinking it's just not a good year for WRs. Take a swing Day 2 or 3 and see what you can get in a complete lottery, SOME of these guys will work out.

Couch-Potato · 03-04-2023, 04:50 PM

Not bad in the end, just means its a lot more likely a high quality WR falls to us IMO

Chris Meck · 03-04-2023, 04:53 PM

I think people have just gotten unrealistic.

I mean, you don't have to run a 4.25 to be fast.

now, if you're small and running a 4.6 you're probably ****ed.

Abba-Dabba · 03-04-2023, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think people have just gotten unrealistic.

I mean, you don't have to run a 4.25 to be fast.

now, if you're small and running a 4.6 you're probably ****ed.

And if you are 220lbs running 4.4 you're probably doing more ****ing than getting ****ed.

kccrow · 03-04-2023, 05:29 PM

All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3.

Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether.

Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round.

Reed would slide to day 3.

You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.

staylor26 · 03-04-2023, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3.

Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether.

Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round.

Reed would slide to day 3.

You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.

Reed sliding to day 3 because he only ran a 4.45?

That's just silly. I would gladly take him in the 3rd.

kccrow · 03-04-2023, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Reed sliding to day 3 because he only ran a 4.45?

That's just silly. I would gladly take him in the 3rd.

No, the combination of a terrible 10-yard split and terrible vertical would bring him back to reality. He wasn't a day 2 prospect to start with but the Senior Bowl was pushing him up a bit to 3rd round talk. Most outlets had him as a 5th-6th rounder before that. He's probably a 4th-5th guy in reality.

staylor26 · 03-04-2023, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

No, the combination of a terrible 10-yard split and terrible vertical would bring him back to reality. He wasn't a day 2 prospect to start with but the Senior Bowl was pushing him up a bit to 3rd round talk. Most outlets had him as a 5th-6th rounder before that. He's probably a 4th-5th guy in reality.

I hadn't seen the vertical and other stuff, but I still believe in his ability on the field.

His Senior Bowl and 2021 tape/production are enough to be on my list for the late 3rd though. Dudes a football player, and his 40 was right about where I expected it to be.

Couch-Potato · 03-04-2023, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3.

Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether.

Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round.

Reed would slide to day 3.

You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.

AND I'm guessing other teams feel the same which mean's he's still unlikely to make it to us I think.

Mecca · 03-04-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3.

Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether.

Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round.

Reed would slide to day 3.

You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.

Zero chance Addison goes in round 2.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2023, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3.

Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether.

Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round.

Reed would slide to day 3.

You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.

The question I have about Johnson is he going to give you 17+ games a year? Seems a bit injury prone

kccrow · 03-04-2023, 06:48 PM

Marvin Mims... man I wish that 10-yard split was a couple of ticks better. Everything else he's been doing today has him as an easy "type" for Reid's offense. Great top-end, vertical, 3-cone, etc.

JSN has put up great numbers in the 3-cone and short shuttle. I'm not too worried about his 40, he's not a burner anyhow. Probably in the 4.5-4.55 range. That shake-n-bake on display though. Hmm.

Ronnie Bell is still my call though. Outside of top-end, he did pretty well in everything. A faster version of Demarcus Robinson with far less suspect hands.

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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2957078	All this really means to me is the only WR I'd consider on day 1 is Hyatt. Quentin Johnston not running bothers me but he looked really good in drills. The rest have slid to day 2 or 3. Wilson, with his injury history and a 4.59 40, would come off my board altogether. Addison and Downs would firmly be 2nd round. Reed would slide to day 3. You pay premiums for speed or size/agility combos. Else 2nd round or 3rd round if they have production. Day 3 for more questions.
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2957078	Marvin Mims... man I wish that 10-yard split was a couple of ticks better. Everything else he's been doing today has him as an easy "type" for Reid's offense. Great top-end, vertical, 3-cone, etc. JSN has put up great numbers in the 3-cone and short shuttle. I'm not too worried about his 40, he's not a burner anyhow. Probably in the 4.5-4.55 range. That shake-n-bake on display though. Hmm. Ronnie Bell is still my call though. Outside of top-end, he did pretty well in everything. A faster version of Demarcus Robinson with far less suspect hands.
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