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ShowtimeSBMVP · 08:33 AM

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

**Bwana** · 12-01-2013, 08:29 PM

Hmmm? If you don't go around being a lowlife drag on society and stealing shit that doesn't belong to you, your risk of getting your ass kicked (or worse) goes down substantially.

BWillie · 12-01-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

It's not really much different from breaking into a house. You know before you commit the crime there's a percentage chance it could end badly. It's an assumption of the risk.

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

JoeyChuckles · 12-01-2013, 08:30 PM

Nothing like a little homicide to put a loss in perspective.

**Rain Man** · 12-01-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles

Nothing like a little homicide to put a loss in perspective.

I'll be honest. Since it was the criminal who died, I'm much more bothered by the loss.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

I was actually judging your blanket statement where you said you should be able to kill anyone you catch breaking into your vehicle.

That's what I found funny.

I don't find it funny at all. One of the issues that drove the creation of this country was personal property. If we can not defend that which we work to own and/or create, how long before we cannot defend ourselves (and there are plenty of people who already would like to have that taken away)? The right to legally own property has always been a key principal in this nation, for a reason.

BWillie · 12-01-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya

The liberals are out........"it's not ok to kill someone stealing" lol...let me know where you live please.

Im not a liberal at all, but some ppl on CP are boarderline psychopaths. I've heard ppl on here brag about how they cant wait to see someone rummaging thru their shed so they can blow someones brains out. Same thing with breaking into your car. That is why I was so outraged at the Joe Horn case (where next store neighbor shoots guy that was leaving next store neighbors unoccupied house and got away w it)

redfan · 12-01-2013, 08:33 PM

Instant karma's gonna get you?

Eleazar · 12-01-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

Not really. If I walk up on someone in the act of committing a crime in a dark parking lot, I have no idea how they intend to deal with the fact that I am now a witness.

**Saul Good** · 12-01-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

You might be if they are in your car when you get there.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

So, you are in no I men treat if you walk up to your unoccupied house with a thief in it? GTFO

tooge · 12-01-2013, 08:35 PM

I was told by the fan assistance guy that a stabbing was involved. FWIW

Jimmya · 12-01-2013, 08:35 PM

Here in texas we can protect our personal property with our guns. If you're dumb enough to risk it, you should be aware of the consequences.

cosmo20002 · 12-01-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Thievery is an inherently dangerous profession, and there are no OSHA guidelines at all.

Thanks, Obama.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 12-01-2013, 08:36 PM

It could have been some drunk guy trying to free the rest of the cat from some MIZZU fan's trunk.

Demonpenz · 12-01-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya

Here in texas we can protect our personal property with our guns. If you're dumb enough to risk it, you should be aware of the consequences.

Also you have to a fiddle in your band.

12-01-2013, 07:18 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3476009	810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in December 3 BY CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday. The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down. Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives. Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium. Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital. Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury. Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday. Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy Last edited by Gonzo; 07-14-2016 at 08:33 AM.. Reason: Couldn't stand it anymore.
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