Official discussion thread on Andy’s late game conservative play calling

[BigRedChief]

It’s a continuing thing from Philly. Why can’t he learn or change?

I and the Chief fans I was with were so pissed off at Andy being conservative again at the end of the game. 2 and 6. You get the 1st down. That’s it, game over. I would be trusting Mahomes to get 6 yards in two tries over trusting our defense.

Almost burned us again just last week. Came close to blowing a another game with conservative play calling.

Come on Andy, your a HOF coach but it’s time to rethink this late game conservative strategy. Trust in Mahomes to get it done.

[crayzkirk]

I've been a huge critic of Reid, wasn't happy with the hiring of him or Alex. That doesn't mean that I have any better suggestions and even if I did, it wouldn't matter.

The more I watch the Chiefs, the more I think Andy simply goes by the numbers. It appears that he believes playing it safe, even with a questionable defense, gives the Chiefs the best odds of winning.

Neither team looked like world beaters last night. The Chiefs didn't look like the team that I remembered except for one drive. Blame the altitude, the field, the players, the coaches, the owner, the referees or a combination of any/all of these.

I just expected them to play better this year and for a multitude of reasons, they seem to be underachieving...

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Designed rollouts aren't going to have routes to the opposite side of the field. In those cases, it's a half field read or throw it away.

They have run many designed rollout throwback passes the last 2 seasons. Usually to Kelce.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, it would be nice for Watkins to you know, do something. I get that he can't do much if Pat doesn't throw him the ball, but they just don't seem to have much chemistry or something.

I don't know if it was the field, or the OL or what but it was an unusual game plan last night.

[dannybcaitlyn]

Andy needs to spend the week on improving short yardage situations. We need to be able to close the games at the end. Frustrating

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

They have run many designed rollout throwback passes the last 2 seasons. Usually to Kelce.

They've run some throw back screens and such. Maybe would have worked last night

[Halfcan]

When Andy runs the same dink and dunk offense every time he gets a lead- it is not too hard to figure it out.

Andy is the problem with this team and needs to retire.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

As predictable as things have seemed at times, I find myself wondering if Andy is just sitting on a whole bunch of shit that he doesn’t wanna show until New England.

That could be wrong, but they’ve never felt as predictable as they have so far this season.

[O.city]

You can't be aggressive and throw it all over the yard when you are getting beat quickly up front.

The OL struggled against a good front. It happens.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

You can't be aggressive and throw it all over the yard when you are getting beat quickly up front.

The OL struggled against a good front. It happens.

Yeah I’d think Fisher gets better too. First time he’s played in months in high altitude against that DL is quite tough.

[FAX]

Coaches are always the beneficiaries and victims of hindsight.

When the mob says Wally can't win games with his philosophy, they have to ignore the wins. When they say he can't win "big" games, they have to ignore the "big" wins. (Which Wally has had.)

As for last night, the turf wasn't conducive to speed (our strength) and the game went to hell after both teams' players were depleted of oxygen.

The Chiefs offense isn't built to run on sand and random chunks of peat. The o-line (other than Schwartz) sucked total ass. We lost our best WR in the 1st quarter. We ran out of running backs (couldn't rotate a single sub) and still won the game. (Props to the Williams kid because that had to be like playing in moon atmosphere.)

Yes, Rivers thinks he can still throw and sometimes he gets lucky. But he's always thrown picks. One of the reasons we got 4 in this game was the pressure applied by the defensive front. Should have had 5 ... and if we had, we probably would have won by 14.

Just one of those ugly games played in conditions that couldn't have been designed more perfectly to hinder the Chiefs offense. But we needed a win and we got one.

The haters want flash and style and highlight plays and MVP discussion. I'll take the dub.

FAX

[FAX]

Originally Posted by O.city

They've run some throw back screens and such. Maybe would have worked last night

Dude ... the Electricians were all over our screen game last night.

FAX

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

They've run some throw back screens and such. Maybe would have worked last night

You have to wonder.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by O.city

You can't be aggressive and throw it all over the yard when you are getting beat quickly up front.

The OL struggled against a good front. It happens.

So why would Andy continue to call pass plays behind the line of scrimmage when they are crowding in already? It is literally the easiest pass to defend against and he calls it 6 times in 4 possessions?

When the Chargers were playing back- he calls all deep passes into the teeth of the defense. When they were stacking the line because the knew Andy was going to try to coast for the win- he calls all zero vertical plays right into the heart of the defense.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by FAX

Coaches are always the beneficiaries and victims of hindsight.

When the mob says Wally can't win games with his philosophy, they have to ignore the wins. When they say he can't win "big" games, they have to ignore the "big" wins. (Which Wally has had.)

As for last night, the turf wasn't conducive to speed (our strength) and the game went to hell after both teams' players were depleted of oxygen.

The Chiefs offense isn't built to run on sand and random chunks of peat. The o-line (other than Schwartz) sucked total ass. We lost our best WR in the 1st quarter. We ran out of running backs (couldn't rotate a single sub) and still won the game. (Props to the Williams kid because that had to be like playing in moon atmosphere.)

Yes, Rivers thinks he can still throw and sometimes he gets lucky. But he's always thrown picks. One of the reasons we got 4 in this game was the pressure applied by the defensive front. Should have had 5 ... and if we had, we probably would have won by 14.

Just one of those ugly games played in conditions that couldn't have been designed more perfectly to hinder the Chiefs offense. But we needed a win and we got one.

The haters want flash and style and highlight plays and MVP discussion. I'll take the dub.

FAX

With Alex Smith, you understand. He played 4th quarters the same safe way he played the first 3. With Mahomes, he plays a lot less effectively in protect the lead situations. Yeah, we close out a lot of these games. But last year included a ton of games where we barely snuck by in wins where we blew out the game in the first half. This year we're seeing that maybe that formula doesn't work as well if our offense isn't blowing the doors off early in the game. We may win the majority of these games now, but in the playoffs we just can't afford to take quarters off. We can't give the ball back to a playoff offense three straight drives like we did vs the chargers and Baltimore. We may have squeaked by but why do we need to be put on those situations to begin with. We have to be better at putting teams away.

I still want to believe that our struggles are learning experiences. Maybe we ignored it last year because it's easier to protect a blowout. But hopefully seeing now that we should be finding ways to put games away because our offense just can't turn on the turbo switch just because we asked them to. Maybe last year, but not this year.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

this was at the 8 minute mark

just goes to show you why they kept sending a RB to the flat

IT WAS WORKING

Nobody seems to understand how much zone the Chargers were playing on the back end.