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Old 10-15-2018, 04:58 PM   #1
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I don't remember the 03 d being this bad against the run.

03 secondary was probably worse though.
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:02 PM   #2
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I don't remember the 03 d being this bad against the run.

03 secondary was probably worse though.
James ran through us like crap through a goose in that 2004 playoff game.

26 CAR, 125 YDS, 2 TD

but ya that's probably an upgrade over this defense.
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:30 PM   #3
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I don't remember the 03 d being this bad against the run.

03 secondary was probably worse though.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/2003/opp.htm

Allowed 3rd most rushing yards and allowed the highest YPC in the NFL at 5.2 allowed.

So yeah. This is worse, but the standard has lowered. Right now there are 4 teams allowing more than 5 YPC. KC was the only team over 5.0 allowed in 03. Overall it's worse, but relative to the rest of the NFL it's not.

The passing defense is WAY worse though. Wesley, Woods, McCleon, Bartee and Warfield outperformed this group.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:42 PM   #4
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Allowed 3rd most rushing yards and allowed the highest YPC in the NFL at 5.2 allowed.

So yeah. This is worse, but the standard has lowered. Right now there are 4 teams allowing more than 5 YPC. KC was the only team over 5.0 allowed in 03. Overall it's worse, but relative to the rest of the NFL it's not.

The passing defense is WAY worse though. Wesley, Woods, McCleon, Bartee and Warfield outperformed this group.
The big difference is takeaways.

That 2003 team forced 37 TOs including 25 INTs.

This defense is on pace to get 24 and only 13 INTs.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:17 PM   #5
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I mean I don't mind a good troll for a day or two but is this really what the NE fanbase has to offer? Or is somebody on this forum playing this role? Is it too much to ask to get a clever troll?
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:45 PM   #6
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Tampa had the worst defense. It isn't close.


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Old 10-15-2018, 09:09 PM   #7
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somehow, every free agent we sign was good somewhere else; yet they turn to shit as soon as they put on a KC uniform.

Hitchens, Fuller, Williams-all looked pretty good before. Suddenly they're crap.

Hmmn. Seems suspicious, no?
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:37 PM   #8
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What's sad is, looking at the cap breakdown of positions for 2018:

Linebackers is #1 with $37,732,950 million with secondary ranked #3 with $27,472,242 million. That's roughly $65,205,192 spent on a very very bad product on the field.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...fs/yearly/cap/
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:40 PM   #9
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This team has to shed some bad contracts and it needs to change schemes and coaches, time to accept it.

Hitchens is salvageable..guys like Bailey, Ford, Houston, Berry it's just time to move on.
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