Chiefs release MVS

[GloryDayz]

It's a business, and sometimes these are the things that have to happen in a league with a cap.

[jettio]

Seems like MVS came here from a Green Bay culture that hazes rookies and he had to learn that Andy Reid has different standards.

Seems like he adjusted to that. He did not have a good year in 2023, and certainly was not worth the 2024 number on his contract, but I give MVS credit for playing to the whistle on plays where the ball was not thrown to him. There were a lot of plays this year where he was blocking downfield when a teammate was trying to get more yards.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by jettio

Seems like MVS came here from a Green Bay culture that hazes rookies and he had to learn that Andy Reid has different standards.

Seems like he adjusted to that. He did not have a good year in 2023, and certainly was not worth the 2024 number on his contract, but I give MVS credit for playing to the whistle on plays where the ball was not thrown to him. There were a lot of plays this year where he was blocking downfield when a teammate was trying to get more yards.

He would have had to played out of his mind in 2023 for this not to happen. He did, for the most part, what the Chiefs needed him to do but This was a foregone conclusion unless he had a monster season in '23.

[Womble]

I wonder how many "playoff hero" posts there would be if he wasn't bailed out in OT by our offense and we lost the Super Bowl after he turned what should have been a 2nd & 4 into a 2nd & 14 by doing MVS things.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Womble

I wonder how many "playoff hero" posts there would be if he wasn't bailed out in OT by our offense and we lost the Super Bowl after he turned what should have been a 2nd & 4 into a 2nd & 14 by doing MVS things.

He didn't exactly catch the ball and run backwards - guy tried to break a tackle and the oddity of the rules say that if you do so and keep your feet, you get punished for it.

I don't think it's fair to say he didn't anything wrong there. That's a designed quick catch/run where his job is to try to break that tackle and find some grass along the sideline. Dude got squared up, absorbed the blow and then tried to recover and couldn't.

This wasn't a Demarcus Robinson catching and running the wrong way scenario. We see that same play happen to guys every week and it's just a strange way the forward progress rule works on occasion.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He didn't exactly catch the ball and run backwards - guy tried to break a tackle and the oddity of the rules say that if you do so and keep your feet, you get punished for it.

I don't think it's fair to say he didn't anything wrong there. That's a designed quick catch/run where his job is to try to break that tackle and find some grass along the sideline. Dude got squared up, absorbed the blow and then tried to recover and couldn't.

This wasn't a Demarcus Robinson catching and running the wrong way scenario. We see that same play happen to guys every week and it's just a strange way the forward progress rule works on occasion.

Try tellng Chris Jones that. His reaction waa funny as hell!

[Womble]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He didn't exactly catch the ball and run backwards - guy tried to break a tackle and the oddity of the rules say that if you do so and keep your feet, you get punished for it.

I don't think it's fair to say he didn't anything wrong there. That's a designed quick catch/run where his job is to try to break that tackle and find some grass along the sideline. Dude got squared up, absorbed the blow and then tried to recover and couldn't.

This wasn't a Demarcus Robinson catching and running the wrong way scenario. We see that same play happen to guys every week and it's just a strange way the forward progress rule works on occasion.

He is running backwards with one hand on the turf to keep his balance. He should have gone down the instant he started going backwards because there was no avenue to escape. Watch it again, he's hardly been forced backwards by the defenders and it's totally on him that we lost those 10 yards.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Womble

He is running backwards with one hand on the turf to keep his balance. He should have gone down the instant he started going backwards because there was no avenue to escape. Watch it again, he's hardly been forced backwards by the defenders and it's totally on him that we lost those 10 yards.

Rearview mirror analysis.

Again, same guy who used second effort to pick up a massive first down last season. It was an effort play that didn't work out.

Trying to barbecue him for it is silly. When guys make that play and find a seam, we sing their praises. When they dont because they have only so much vision out there in real time and the play is unfolding, we hold them to the standard of Madden View omniscience.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Rearview mirror analysis.

Again, same guy who used second effort to pick up a massive first down last season. It was an effort play that didn't work out.

Trying to barbecue him for it is silly. When guys make that play and find a seam, we sing their praises. When they dont because they have only so much vision out there in real time and the play is unfolding, we hold them to the standard of Madden View omniscience.

I just think these takes are a bit OTT with people comparing him to Frank Clark etc. In the playoffs for KC in the last 2 years he did what you would expect an average to below average WR would do. Comparing his average playoff performances to a player that's third all time in postseason sacks is dumb imo. He upped his game from downright terrible to okay.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Womble

I wonder how many "playoff hero" posts there would be if he wasn't bailed out in OT by our offense and we lost the Super Bowl after he turned what should have been a 2nd & 4 into a 2nd & 14 by doing MVS things.

I wonder if you would've posted the above if he hadn't made those two tough contested catches in the game against the Bills and we had lost that one.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I wonder if you would've posted the above if he hadn't made those two tough contested catches in the game against the Bills and we had lost that one.

There wouldn't have been any playoff hero posts for me to reply to so no.

[Basileus777]

Toney is at least a NFL level athlete, Skyy Moore has no reason to keep a roster slot after camp.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Toney is at least a NFL level athlete, Skyy Moore has no reason to keep a roster slot after camp.

Also we save money down the line by cutting Skyy Moore, not much but some pennies.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Toney is at least a NFL level athlete, Skyy Moore has no reason to keep a roster slot after camp.

I’d be willing to keep Toney around as nothing more than a punt/kicker returner.

That becomes his entire focal point.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I’d be willing to keep Toney around as nothing more than a punt/kicker returner.

That becomes his entire focal point.

No.

Toney is done here.


Sign Devin Duvernay as the KR/PR and he plays WR better than almost anyone we had last year as well.