***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

This thread is for fear porn only. Stop it.

Let me help you with that.

via GIPHY

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If there was 100% chance or even 50% chance that someone's breath could pass it on to you, then sure.

But, maybe it's 5% (just throwing an number out there), so coming in close contact with one person probably wouldn't matter, but being crammed inside public transportation with another few thousand people would increase your odds (perhaps not a crazy amount given the number of people who have it vs. those who don't, but still).

If I had to completely guess, I'd think there would be a higher chance of catching it than surface and then face contact, but still relatively low in the grand scheme of things on a per-contact basis.

Then you would be wrong. 80%+ of new infections are from air droplets.

I can't find the link anymore with the plethora of Coronavirus crap out there. But I read that directly from the CDC site at one time.

I'm not saying you are one of them, but there is a certain cohort of individuals who think that if you just cover your mouth and wash your hands that you won't pass along the virus. Touching a door knob or a surface is actually a rare way you catch the virus.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That doesn't even factor in all the mental pain and anguish they cause as teens.

Tell me about it. I've got two PMS'ing pre teen granddaughters staying with me that are going to make a killer out of me.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Pain and mental anguish? Depends on the kid I would think..

Teenagers are assholes man!

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Pain and mental anguish? Depends on the kid I would think..

Says the guy with no kids.

[BleedingRed]

Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...MgY9zJvCUt5vAs

[Titty Meat]

Pretty dumb how the news reports some of these cases

https://www.kmbc.com/article/health-...d-19/32022949#

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So you're saying this is credible?

I’m saying the National Acadrmy of Sciences is credible. No way they put out a minor league study. They are the big dogs. Still, it’s only one study. You need more than one study to make a scientific fact.

[F150]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, well when the government tells you you can't work, what are you supposed to do?

Find a way.....just because you failed to save and plan for tough times its not everyone elses job to bail you out.

Maybe we need to start a work help program? You go on the teat but you donate your labor and kills in return for the general welfare of the country?


What if the Government took a new approach post Corona and skims off 10% every check, above and beyond what has always been taken and invests it on your behalf in a Sand P fund. So you can ignore your own needs and they cover you.

People are to stupid, lazy and self absorbed to wipe their own ass.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by F150

Find a way.....just because you failed to save and plan for tough times its not everyone elses job to bail you out.

Maybe we need to start a work help program? You go on the teat but you donate your labor and kills in return for the general welfare of the country?


What if the Government took a new approach post Corona and skims off 10% every check, above and beyond what has always been taken and invests it on your behalf in a Sand P fund. So you can ignore your own needs and they cover you.

People are to stupid, lazy and self absorbed to wipe their own ass.

What the hell are you talking about?

No one is out of a job right now because they're "lazy" or didn't want to work. They lost their jobs because of state and local Lockdowns.

Most people don't have enough "emergency" savings for a month, let alone, 2, 3 or four months. And it's not cheap to live in other parts of the country, like it is in Missouri and Kansas, either.

The average price of a one bedroom apartment in LA County is $1,850 a month and for that $1,850, you're likely renting a 50-80 year old apartment without central air or heat.

This is without a doubt, one the dumbest posts in a thread filled with dumb posts.

[Hammock Parties]

France is getting shelled.

1400 deaths today.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

France is getting shelled.

1400 deaths today.

i dont think they have been testing very well. Because Spain and Italy are over 100k and they are not. I dont believe it

[Donger]

Californians told to mask up.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

i dont think they have been testing very well. Because Spain and Italy are over 100k and they are not. I dont believe it

France has tested more per capita than us. Do you dispute our death figures?

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Californians told to mask up.

Did they say where citizens can pick up said masks?