Chiefs Keep doubting CEH - Page 10

TwistedChief · 09-23-2021, 07:36 PM

Yup, it's time to go there.

Clyde is being sold below guys on our practice squad (mOrE GOre!!). The Mayocks of CP are coming out of the woodwork to revisit the draft and the 'wasted' first round pick on a RB. He's slow. He's unathletic. He has no vision. He can't pass block. He completely sucks.

I'm not sold on this narrative.

Fumble was inexcusable but highly atypical. Guy has struggled with vision this year. But he flashed early last year. He's still figuring out this OL and the Chiefs are still figuring out how to use him in this system. He was named the MVP of the best college (spread) offense I think we might ever see. He has talent. Just needs to re-find his groove.

I'm not giving up on him as we've seen Reid do more with a lot less. And I think Clyde is primed to turn it up from here.

So, not a homer take. Just a take that's being less pessimistic after a difficult loss. Let this be a safe space for those who haven't given up on Clyde.

I believe.

CoMoChief · 09-25-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Took a look at his stats. CEH has 1 TD in his career with the Chiefs.

One.

It's a fault of the offense/scheme Reid runs.

When the Chiefs get inside the redzone, they can't run the football effectively, especially inside the 5.

Clyde isn't getting the ball inside the redzone.

It's frustrating. I wish the Chiefs would run more plays from behind center and not out of the shotgun so much.

jettio · 09-25-2021, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

What's his yards per rush avg? Yards after contact avg.? Receiving yards? Can he block on passing downs?

He's nowhere near where he needs to be. Anyone who knows a little football can see that.

I have watched enough football to know that not all plays work and that running plays depend on play design and how well the play is blocked.

Clyde has 27 carries and 3.3 YPC. All other Chiefs players have 14 carries and a 3.3 YPC. That includes scrambles and jet sweeps and all running plays.

The way the first two game played out, Chiefs did not run as many offensive snaps as they usually do. Seems like most of the drives that ended with a punt had a offensive penalty or a sack or TFL or both.

Seems like Chiefs had one drive end because of Clyde and that was the fumble. The assholes around here have been badmouthing him before that.

burt · 09-25-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

lol, aren't we all?

Geez....I was about to welcome him to the club.....

jettio · 09-25-2021, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd

So the guys on that site who do nothing but compile stats on everything in the NFL don’t know football, but you do. Sure, okay. Don’t kill the messenger. CEH hasn’t done anything in his short career with this team, and if you can’t accept others criticizing that fact than too bad for you. Oh, and I’ve been watching the Chiefs and the NFL for 30 years. I played HS football all 4 years. I know a little about football.

Glad to see you are contrite for posting a dumbass article that says that a guy who has 9 yard rushing plays in both games is having the worst year in the league because he has not made any first downs, when he made a first down in one of the most memorable plays of the Chiefs season.

You found the most misleadingly stupid article on the internet about the 2021 NFL season. A guy that gets most of his carries on first down is the worst running back in the league because he has not made any first downs excepts for the ones forgotten about. Never mind several 7 yard and 9 yard runs on first down carries.

Clyde's long carry in the two preseason games he played were 10 yards and 7 yards and he has at least one 9 yard run in both regular season games.

I have watched enough football to know that RBs that are no good do not rip off plus 5 yard gains regularly.

Discuss Thrower · 09-25-2021, 10:08 AM

Clyde probably needs a change of scenery.

Hammock Parties · 09-25-2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Clyde's long carry in the two preseason games he played were 10 yards and 7 yards and he has at least one 9 yard run in both regular season games.

493rd · 09-25-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Glad to see you are contrite for posting a dumbass article that says that a guy who has 9 yard rushing plays in both games is having the worst year in the league because he has not made any first downs, when he made a first down in one of the most memorable plays of the Chiefs season.

You found the most misleadingly stupid article on the internet about the 2021 NFL season. A guy that gets most of his carries on first down is the worst running back in the league because he has not made any first downs excepts for the ones forgotten about. Never mind several 7 yard and 9 yard runs on first down carries.

Clyde's long carry in the two preseason games he played were 10 yards and 7 yards and he has at least one 9 yard run in both regular season games.

I have watched enough football to know that RBs that are no good do not rip off plus 5 yard gains regularly.

The article was on PFT, dip shit. Maybe you’ve heard of it? I visit PFT everyday and saw that article this morning. I posted it here because it shows that it’s not just CP that’s noticed the struggles of CEH. Sorry you disagree. That’s your problem.

Hammock Parties · 09-25-2021, 11:35 AM

It's unbelievable to me we're using "9-yard runs" as a barometer of worthiness.

Good RBs rip off a run over 20 yards almost every game.

That is why they track that stat.

Clyde has ONE in his last 10 games and it came with the Chiefs down 15 in the SB.

TEX · 09-25-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It's unbelievable to me we're using "9-yard runs" as a barometer of worthiness.

Good RBs rip off a run over 20 yards almost every game.

That is why they track that stat.

Clyde has ONE in his last 10 games and it came with the Chiefs down 15 in the SB.

I know, right??? We just don't know football...

**Bwana** · 09-25-2021, 11:44 AM

bringbackmarty · 09-25-2021, 12:03 PM

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips...for-clyde-frog

**Easy 6** · 09-25-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

SHUT CEH DOWN NOW OR IM NOT FIXING YOUR BAR!

T-post Tom · 09-25-2021, 01:50 PM

I don't know what to think about CEH anymore. Compelling points from all sides. Hoping for the best. Hope the kid has a stellar day tomorrow. Keeping the glass half full with TC et al.

-King- · 09-25-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Glad to see you are contrite for posting a dumbass article that says that a guy who has 9 yard rushing plays in both games is having the worst year in the league because he has not made any first downs, when he made a first down in one of the most memorable plays of the Chiefs season.

You found the most misleadingly stupid article on the internet about the 2021 NFL season. A guy that gets most of his carries on first down is the worst running back in the league because he has not made any first downs excepts for the ones forgotten about. Never mind several 7 yard and 9 yard runs on first down carries.

Clyde's long carry in the two preseason games he played were 10 yards and 7 yards and he has at least one 9 yard run in both regular season games.

I have watched enough football to know that RBs that are no good do not rip off plus 5 yard gains regularly.

Yeah...that's why he's averaging 3.2 yards lmao. He has 8 runs this season 5 yards or more. He has 19 runs of 5 or less. Those numbers should be flipped at worst given what the line has been giving him.

Rexx · 09-25-2021, 02:29 PM

It's not about the stats and or opportunities, he just doesn't past the eye test. He is small, not quick and doesn't possess the burst. I hope he finds his way and becomes a factor but he is definitely nothing special for being a 1st round pick.

09-23-2021, 07:36 PM
TwistedChief Why so serious? Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $1950415	Keep doubting CEH Yup, it's time to go there. Clyde is being sold below guys on our practice squad (mOrE GOre!!). The Mayocks of CP are coming out of the woodwork to revisit the draft and the 'wasted' first round pick on a RB. He's slow. He's unathletic. He has no vision. He can't pass block. He completely sucks. I'm not sold on this narrative. Fumble was inexcusable but highly atypical. Guy has struggled with vision this year. But he flashed early last year. He's still figuring out this OL and the Chiefs are still figuring out how to use him in this system. He was named the MVP of the best college (spread) offense I think we might ever see. He has talent. Just needs to re-find his groove. I'm not giving up on him as we've seen Reid do more with a lot less. And I think Clyde is primed to turn it up from here. So, not a homer take. Just a take that's being less pessimistic after a difficult loss. Let this be a safe space for those who haven't given up on Clyde. I believe.
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09-25-2021, 11:35 AM	#143
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4220478	It's unbelievable to me we're using "9-yard runs" as a barometer of worthiness. Good RBs rip off a run over 20 yards almost every game. That is why they track that stat. Clyde has ONE in his last 10 games and it came with the Chiefs down 15 in the SB. __________________ Chiefs game films
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09-25-2021, 01:50 PM	#148
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4287293	I don't know what to think about CEH anymore. Compelling points from all sides. Hoping for the best. Hope the kid has a stellar day tomorrow. Keeping the glass half full with TC et al. __________________ You seem nice! Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-25-2021 at 07:01 PM..
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09-25-2021, 02:29 PM	#150
Rexx Seeing Red! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NM, USA Casino cash: $10005814	It's not about the stats and or opportunities, he just doesn't past the eye test. He is small, not quick and doesn't possess the burst. I hope he finds his way and becomes a factor but he is definitely nothing special for being a 1st round pick.
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