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Old 05-09-2019, 10:23 AM  
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CBS sports online website article: Patrick Peterson to Chiefs "MAKES SENSE"

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...s-blockbuster/

3.Cardinals trade Patrick Peterson to the Chiefs
Chiefs get: Patrick Peterson
Cardinals get: 2020 first-round pick

Patrick Peterson won't come out and say it, but it kind of seems like he doesn't want to play for the Cardinals anymore. Just to give you a little refresher on the Peterson situation: The Cardinals corner demanded a trade back in October, only to apologize for making that demand a few months later, but the situation didn't end there, because now, it looks like he wants to be traded again. Peterson has removed the Cardinals name from all of his social media accounts and he's spent the past month taking passive-aggressive shots at the team. If you've ever watched literally any reality show involving a Millennial, those are usually the first two signs that a breakup is coming.

Peterson even posted a photo of some of his former teammates who are no longer with him in Arizona, and that photo had an interesting caption, "My boys told me to watch out for the snakes in the long grass!"

With a new Cardinals coaching staff now in place, it would make since for them to start fresh with players who actually want to be in Arizona. Clearly, Peterson isn't one of those players.

If the Cards start to shop Peterson, every team in the NFL should call them with an offer. Not only is he a three-time All-Pro corner, but he's also under contract for the next two seasons at the very reasonable rates of $11 million (2019) and $12.05 million (2020).

Although Peterson could get dealt anywhere, we're sending him to the Chiefs and that's because Kansas City has been doing everything possible to beef up a defensive unit that couldn't stop anyone while ranking 31st overall in the NFL last season. After watching his defense choke away the AFC title game, Andy Reid is clearly trying to make sure that doesn't happen again.

Not only have the Chiefs already traded for Frank Clark and Emmanuel Ogbah, but they've also signed Tyrann Mathieu, Alex Okafor and Damien Wilson. If the Chiefs were to add Peterson to the mix, the defense would be nearly as scary as their offense. Also, based on Peterson's Instagram picture, it seems Peterson would probably be pretty excited about the chance to reunite with Mathieu.

#PRAY4PP!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:33 AM   #136
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We need to save some all in for next season too guys. And this guy is hardly Deion Sanders at age 30. You say he doesn't have any injuries? Well guess what, that means he's due. And he's not getting any younger.
I was all for it prior to picking up Clark, but that first round pick is gone now. We made our choice and it's time to move on.
No offense, but eat my ass hole u dumb bich!!!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:38 AM   #137
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No offense, but eat my ass hole u dumb bich!!!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:44 AM   #138
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I can't speak for them, obviously, but I would guess a bottom-of-the-round 2020 first IS the equivalent of a second round pick from the Cardinal's perspective. Along those lines, I think expecting them to be happy with what to them is a 3rd and a 5th is a pipe dream.

You know what really worries me? We saw Andy Reid go all-in for a couple years with the Eagles, in pretty much the same way they have this year. And we all know how that went. Hopefully Mahomes is enough.
Be careful, KCLee got hammered for saying this. I have been thinking it for a few months now.

We have Mahomes, though. That’s the difference between 2012 Philly and KC.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:48 AM   #139
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I can't speak for them, obviously, but I would guess a bottom-of-the-round 2020 first IS the equivalent of a second round pick from the Cardinal's perspective. Along those lines, I think expecting them to be happy with what to them is a 3rd and a 5th is a pipe dream.

You know what really worries me? We saw Andy Reid go all-in for a couple years with the Eagles, in pretty much the same way they have this year. And we all know how that went. Hopefully Mahomes is enough.
I don’t see this as an all in type of scenario. We cut players who were making more than their worth, and didn’t fit the current scheme/culture. It’s been a defensive rebuild on the fly. We haven’t added many known commodities on offense unless you’re counting Hyde. We have no TE2 worth a damn, and Kelce is coming off surgery. The Hill scenario is up in the air, and Watkins can’t be counted on for 16 games. I wish this was an all in deal but it doesn’t seem that way to me.
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Be careful, KCLee got hammered for saying this. I have been thinking it for a few months now.

We have Mahomes, though. That’s the difference between 2012 Philly and KC.
Mahomes is the difference. all those years we talked about QBs who could take a team and put them on their back and will them to victory, and last season we finally got to see one in action. On our team for a change..
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I don’t see this as an all in type of scenario. We cut players who were making more than their worth, and didn’t fit the current scheme/culture. It’s been a defensive rebuild on the fly. We haven’t added many known commodities on offense unless you’re counting Hyde. We have no TE2 worth a damn, and Kelce is coming off surgery. The Hill scenario is up in the air, and Watkins can’t be counted on for 16 games. I wish this was an all in deal but it doesn’t seem that way to me.
yep, it's just a different type of build other than building straight through the draft.
What LA did last year is what I would consider going all-in.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:12 AM   #142
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Difference then vs now is that they went all in with old vets in Philly

The chiefs at least have kept it to young guys
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:17 AM   #143
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If they trade for Peterson, I would argue they have gone all-in. We're talking two high profile players for two high dollar contracts plus four draft picks, in addition to high dollars for Mattheau, medium dollars for Breeland and Okafor. In addition to the Brink's truck they backed up to bring in all the new defensive coaches. They're spending a ton to try to turn the defense around immediately. Bringing in Peterson would clearly establish this is not a patient, build it slow approach.
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Some guy asked what was the first reported offer.

That Twitter guy's reply:

https://twitter.com/Chiefs365Com/sta...914750470?s=19

He also said not long ago that the Cards are not realistic and think the Chiefs are desperate.

I have come to believe that Peterson to the Chiefs is not going to happen. Veach will just have to go with his plan B.
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Some guy asked what was the first reported offer.

That Twitter guy's reply:

https://twitter.com/Chiefs365Com/sta...914750470?s=19

He also said not long ago that the Cards are not realistic and think the Chiefs are desperate.

I have come to believe that Peterson to the Chiefs is not going to happen. Veach will just have to go with his plan B.
They are crazy if they think the Chiefs will give a 1st & 2nd in '20 and a 3rd in '21 for a CB who is almost 30. Nobody is that dumb.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:30 AM   #146
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They are crazy if they think the Chiefs will give a 1st & 2nd in '20 and a 3rd in '21 for a CB who is almost 30. Nobody is that dumb.
I mean I'm thinking that's their starting offer but they know they wouldn't get that much. Still, if it's true, it does show that they think he's worth a king's ransom.

The guy wanted to be traded at the trade deadline and it didn't happen.

The draft just passed, the rumors were that he was unhappy and possibly be traded and it did not happen again.

I'm just not sure he will get traded but then you have to see if he will persist in his discontent.
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I mean I'm thinking that's their starting offer but they know they wouldn't get that much. Still, if it's true, it does show that they think he's worth a king's ransom.

The guy wanted to be traded at the trade deadline and it didn't happen.

The draft just passed, the rumors were that he was unhappy and possibly be traded and it did not happen again.

I'm just not sure he will get traded but then you have to see if he will persist in his discontent.
The longer he holds out the more reasonable they will become.

Keep holding out PP
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Difference then vs now is that they went all in with old vets in Philly

The chiefs at least have kept it to young guys
BINGO. Honey Badger, Frank Clark, Mahomes... all mid-20s baybay
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Difference then vs now is that they went all in with old vets in Philly

The chiefs at least have kept it to young guys
There’s that and the fact that we have Mahomes instead of ****ing Vick.
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Difference then vs now is that they went all in with old vets in Philly

The chiefs at least have kept it to young guys
that's right, Veach is picking up premium players who have a lot left in the tank and who are heading to their contract extensions. That is a great way to pick up free agents and trades.

As to those Cardinal demands mentioned above? No way in hell.
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