Post-Mortem: 2022 NFL Draft Class

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Well, it's hard to tap the brakes when the parking brake is already set. If he were actually getting meaningful snaps on offense I'd maybe give you some credence there.

Should he be returning punts? No, because he never really was a punt returner. I hoped for Coleman to be kept for that reason and they passed on it.

It could very well be the kid just doesn't have the playbook down well enough for Andy's liking yet. From what I've seen in preseason, it doesn't seem like a talent issue.

This is my gripe. I can accept the logic - get him involved, he's got good hands and YAC ability. But FFS it's a new skill he's having to learn. Just let him learn in the areas he's shown ability first. We have a collapsing OL and absolutely no-one else on this team getting early separation. Maybe he won't do that, but let's see.

With a bit of luck someone will notice this sooner rather than later and increase his snaps. With further luck this punt-return nonsense won't have dented his confidence too much.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So we gonna keep grading this kid on a curve now?

Him and Cook have done far more to lose games for us than win them thus far.

Let's just tap the breaks here fellas. Moore has a long way to go to look like an NFL player yet.

To be fair, the kid was supposed to be a polished, NFL-ready WR.

So what does the team do? Have him return punts, even though he's never done it before.

They're not putting him in a position to succeed, that's not really his fault.

[louie aguiar]

Abraham Lucas has been great so far for Seattle. Went early in the third

Abraham Lucas has been the best rookie OT that I've seen in the NFL this season and he was the 7th OT and 15th overall OL taken in the draft. His play strength is serving as the foundation of his game & is really impressive. pic.twitter.com/k0FRVmSfIM

— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) September 30, 2022

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

Abraham Lucas has been great so far for Seattle. Went early in the third

Abraham Lucas has been the best rookie OT that I've seen in the NFL this season and he was the 7th OT and 15th overall OL taken in the draft. His play strength is serving as the foundation of his game & is really impressive. pic.twitter.com/k0FRVmSfIM

— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) September 30, 2022

Like somebody said to me yesterday, good scouting will find us a LT. I have complete faith in Veach at this point. If OBJ is truly on his way out, we'll find an adequate replacement and probably A LOT cheaper.

[RunKC]

I admittedly am not as into prospects throughout the draft as I used to be. Didn’t know anything about Lucas but reading his scouting report is kinda baffling to why he fell so far.

His athletic profile is excellent. 6’6” 325. 33 7/8 arms, 10+ inch hands. Former hooper but has the core strength.

Also ran an excellent 7.25 3 cone for a guy that big.

He’s just an excellent profile for an Andy Reid offense. Ideal RT. Oh well I’m sure there will be other chances.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like somebody said to me yesterday, good scouting will find us a LT. I have complete faith in Veach at this point. If OBJ is truly on his way out, we'll find an adequate replacement and probably A LOT cheaper.

Isn’t that scouting what led us to trade for OBJ in the first place? IMO hard to have complete faith when trading for OBJ was a flawed move to begin with. The chances of him ever developing into an elite LT in THIS offense were always slim and his contract demands weren’t exactly a secret even before we traded for him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Isn’t that scouting what led us to trade for OBJ in the first place? IMO hard to have complete faith when trading for OBJ was a flawed move to begin with. The chances of him ever developing into an elite LT in THIS offense were always slim and his contract demands weren’t exactly a secret even before we traded for him.

Have you seen that tackle class from that year? We probably could have traded up for Darrisaw but coming out, he had concerns about his back or neck, IIRC.

The rest of that class is mostly right tackles or trash.

It was a desperation move. Hopefully they've learned from it.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Have you seen that tackle class from that year? We probably could have traded up for Darrisaw but coming out, he had concerns about his back or neck, IIRC.

The rest of that class is mostly right tackles or trash.

It was a desperation move. Hopefully they've learned from it.

They didn't merely because they could have had Penning which, at minimum, would have locked up RT and probably would have been the LT going into 2023.

Hindsight says yeah, he got hurt, but that doesn't detract from the facts leading in. And, he looked pretty ****ing good before the injury.

[JPH83]

The guy I really wanted us to get late was Kellen Diesch. He's floating around on the Bears practice squad so the likelihood is...he's terrible. But man he just looked like he needed a year in the weights room. Everything else was solid.

[JPH83]

I guess hindsight's 20-20. As great as McDuffie looks I don't think anyone here was clamouring for us trading up for a CB in the 1st round. Veach obviously WAS thinking the same as everyone in terms of focusing on defence.

The one pick I'd have back is the Cook one. I get it, Spags like 3 safeties, but nobody's convincing me there aren't a dozen guys that came after that they'd not want instead and who wouldn't be making more of an impact. Including Raimann and Lucas.

In Veach's defence, it's hard to have seen the collapse in OBJ's form I guess but man having a solid RT would feel good right now.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by JPH83

I guess hindsight's 20-20. As great as McDuffie looks I don't think anyone here was clamouring for us trading up for a CB in the 1st round. Veach obviously WAS thinking the same as everyone in terms of focusing on defence.

The one pick I'd have back is the Cook one. I get it, Spags like 3 safeties, but nobody's convincing me there aren't a dozen guys that came after that they'd not want instead and who wouldn't be making more of an impact. Including Raimann and Lucas.

In Veach's defence, it's hard to have seen the collapse in OBJ's form I guess but man having a solid RT would feel good right now.

What's with all the Raimann love?

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

What's with all the Raimann love?

Just really liked him in the draft and I think they've got a load of value with the pick. He's looks pretty technically decent given how little time he's had at the position and he's an insane mover. But if he was part of the Colts team yesterday it looks like their OL got smashed, so early days.

I'm also not going to pretend he would have been a pick I was looking at as I really didn't care about drafting another OT particularly early, it's only with Brown's play this year that i'm concentrating on "what ifs". Mostly I was looking at projects in the later rounds.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Just really liked him in the draft and I think they've got a load of value with the pick. He's looks pretty technically decent given how little time he's had at the position and he's an insane mover. But if he was part of the Colts team yesterday it looks like their OL got smashed, so early days.

I'm also not going to pretend he would have been a pick I was looking at as I really didn't care about drafting another OT particularly early, it's only with Brown's play this year that i'm concentrating on "what ifs". Mostly I was looking at projects in the later rounds.

Yeah, both Raimann AND Pryor looked like shit yesterday.

But then again, I'm betting the beer vendors were tripping over their own feet last night. Pretty garbage effort by everyone involved in that one...

[MahomesMagic]

Khalil Shakir.

3 catches, 75 yards, 1 TD.

He's making it hard to take him off the field.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, both Raimann AND Pryor looked like shit yesterday.

But then again, I'm betting the beer vendors were tripping over their own feet last night. Pretty garbage effort by everyone involved in that one...

I really don't think you watched Raimann hard enough in that game my dude. Raimann played quite well for a rookie in his first real start. He was technically and assignment-sound. Where he's lacking, and he can't fix it right now, is in strength and we all knew that coming in. He had a hard time anchoring against power but he still kept guys riding the arc. He had a couple of bad snaps, especially the one where he got thrown to the turf like a ragdoll, but other than that he was solid. I wish we had a rookie looking like he did. Instead, we have a 5th-year pro that wants a record contract looking worse.

Pryor now... that dude was hot garbage on more than a few plays. So was their right guard.