Fans of other teams justification thread

[Rainbarrel]

The fans of teams justifying their teams and QBs is getting beyond silly. The Bills fans, for one example, are really reaching deep in the denial bag. Please post what you find.

Here is a sample:


When you strip it all down and realy look at it, take away the team name, the supporting cast, the coaches, team mates, you're not left with one of the best quarterbacks in the league, you're left with the best quarterback in the league. 17 is the most polarizing player in the modern NFL era. If 17 is dropped into any NFL roster, 17 immediately makes that team more of a contender than any quarterback in the league would. There's a reason 17 is the most played player in Madden, 17 is a living breathing cheat code.
#QB1
#GoBills

[Chris Meck]

Josh Allen is, for me, QB3 at the moment. I wouldn't take him over Burrow, but I'd take him over everyone else in a world in which Mahomes doesn't exist.

Thankfully, such a world does exist, and he's our guy. Man, we waited SO LONG for this.

[Chieftain]

Bunghole fans seem more level headed in this regard. They admit Burrow is 2nd to Mahomes and are happy with that.

Buffalolol fans on the other hand, they really believe Josh Allen is better than Mahomes. Obviously they are the only fanbase who believes this delusional nonsense. When you cheer for an historic loser franchise like the Bills, you need something to give you comfort or else life becomes depressing. To them JA is that snuggly comfort teddy bear they keep in bed at night to make themselves feel better.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember all the stupid shit people said on here about Brady and Manning

Chiefs fan hung on the silliest of narratives before Mahomes.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

The fans of teams justifying their teams and QBs is getting beyond silly. The Bills fans, for one example, are really reaching deep in the denial bag. Please post what you find.

Here is a sample:


When you strip it all down and realy look at it, take away the team name, the supporting cast, the coaches, team mates, you're not left with one of the best quarterbacks in the league, you're left with the best quarterback in the league. 17 is the most polarizing player in the modern NFL era. If 17 is dropped into any NFL roster, 17 immediately makes that team more of a contender than any quarterback in the league would. There's a reason 17 is the most played player in Madden, 17 is a living breathing cheat code.
#QB1
#GoBills

Someone needs to remind him what happened when 15 had :13 to end 17.

Bills fan...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by scho63

If we look back at the PM Era (pre Mahomes) instead of the AM Era (after Mahomes), we will see identical posts from overly optimistic Chief's fans, myself included, who made some pretty outrageous claims during the dark days of KC Chiefs football.

We touted a whole lotta shit players over stars of other teams.

Now we can look at others and laugh as they do the same.

This thread is about QBs.

Chiefs fans have always hated their QBs.

[Bearcat]

The funniest, IMO, is Patriots fans spending 20 years defending Brady and then immediately turning around, armed with the same dumb narratives they hated all those years to throw at Mahomes.

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Pablo

17 is white Cam Newton, same brains and everything.

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Josh Allen is, for me, QB3 at the moment. I wouldn't take him over Burrow, but I'd take him over everyone else in a world in which Mahomes doesn't exist.

Thankfully, such a world does exist, and he's our guy. Man, we waited SO LONG for this.

This is probably fair.

Allens biggest issue IMHO and the bills is can McDermott be better. His defense has been historically bad in the playoffs

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Imagine using that piece of shit Madden offering to validate the ability of a football player in reality.

Allen is Jeff George that can run. Million dollar arm, ten cent brain.

Jeff George never had back to back winning seasons
Never made a pro bowl and only threw for over 3000 yards 3x in his entire career...

If I'm not mistaken he made the playoffs once in his career with Randy Moss and Cris Carter at wr and a top 5 oline

Stop it dude

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Imagine using that piece of shit Madden offering to validate the ability of a football player in reality.

Allen is Jeff George that can run. Million dollar arm, ten cent brain.

SHOTS FIRED

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Outside Allen's rookie year ( pff graded buffalo as the worst roster in the NFL in 18) Allen is second in NFL history for winning %

I personally don't think Allen will ever catch mahomes. But I think he'll probably break thru a couple times like Clyde Drexler and Hakeem did in the Jordan era

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

Good point. It's insulting to compare him to Cam Newton.

Josh Allen is more like Kordell Stewart

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Outside Allen's rookie year ( pff graded buffalo as the worst roster in the NFL in 18) Allen is second in NFL history for winning %

I personally don't think Allen will ever catch mahomes. But I think he'll probably break thru a couple times like Clyde Drexler and Hakeem did in the Jordan era

A very fair post.

I actually give Allen the edge over Burrow right now.

Had it not been for baby mama drama, I think the Bills play the Chiefs on a gay neutral site and it's a coin flip game.

Never seen Allen throw terrible picks against us like Burrow did in the AFCCG.

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

The funniest, IMO, is Patriots fans spending 20 years defending Brady and then immediately turning around, armed with the same dumb narratives they hated all those years to throw at Mahomes.

They had the greatest dynasty ever. It's hard to admit when it's over

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

A very fair post.

I actually give Allen the edge over Burrow right now.

Had it not been for baby mama drama, I think the Bills play the Chiefs on a gay neutral site and it's a coin flip game.

Never seen Allen throw terrible picks against us like Burrow did in the AFCCG.

Burrow is better with traditional consistency.

But Allen is the only QB in the NFL who can match mahomes A+ game

If mahomes is on nobody except Allen can still possibly beat him.

Mahomes A+ game vs everyone else in 10 games is 10-0
Mahomes A+ game vs Allen's A+ game is probably 7-3 or 6-4 against Allen