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Dante84 · 09:40 AM

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staylor26 · 12-07-2022, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Toney is 100% unproven, and Hardman is JAG. WRs have not been the problem vs. Cinci. KC's best chance to best the Bengals is by not having a garbage pass rush.

You should probably stick to posting in the DC.

Of course having Hardman and Toney available would've made a difference. Their skill sets have absolutely been missed.

Hammock Parties · 12-07-2022, 02:33 PM

it's far easier to get cheap yards that don't require your QB to hold the ball if you have toney and hardman on the field

only those guys can turn a bubble screen into a 50 yard gain

Red Dawg · 12-07-2022, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You should probably stick to posting in the DC.

Of course having Hardman and Toney available would've made a difference. Their skill sets have absolutely been missed.

Yup. I agree totally. More weapons the better. Take Chase from Burrow and we probably win. Add Toney and Hardman and we move the chains more and probably win.

htismaqe · 12-07-2022, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

We likely only play one of them unless Baltimore wins their division which isn't going to happen.

Baltimore has a much easier schedule than Cincinnati going forward. They play the Steelers twice, the Falcons, and the Browns.

Cincinatti has the Browns, the Bucs, Buffalo, and the Pats.

Marcellus · 12-07-2022, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You should probably stick to posting in the DC.

Of course having Hardman and Toney available would've made a difference. Their skill sets have absolutely been missed.

Hardman has 6TDs almost all in the RedZone, if not all of them, and that dumbass thinks he doesn't add anything to the offense.

Marcellus · 12-07-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Baltimore has a much easier schedule than Cincinnati going forward. They play the Steelers twice, the Falcons, and the Browns.

Cincinatti has the Browns, the Bucs, Buffalo, and the Pats.

Baltimore isn't good, at all.

ToxSocks · 12-07-2022, 02:40 PM

The speed alone that Toney and Hardman bring would make a difference.

Those guys can do what MVS, JJSS and Watson cannot: Make a big play out of nothing.

DRM08 · 12-07-2022, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Yup. I agree totally. More weapons the better. Take Chase from Burrow and we probably win. Add Toney and Hardman and we move the chains more and probably win.

KC moved the ball pretty well. They had a fumble and missed FG to end up with zero points on two good drives. The Bengals offense also held the ball for a huge chunk of the game. Excluding the kneel-down to finish the 1st half, the Chiefs only had 7 possessions in the game.

ThaVirus · 12-07-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

KC moved the ball pretty well. They had a fumble and missed FG to end up with zero points on two good drives. The Bengals offense also held the ball for a huge chunk of the game. Excluding the kneel-down to finish the 1st half, the Chiefs only had 7 possessions in the game.

Yep. Pat averaged 8.2 YPA and the running game averaged 5.5 YPC. We were moving the ball well.

They scored 3 TDs, we scored 3 TDs. They made a kick, we missed a kick. They had no turnovers, we had a crucial turnover in the 4th.

That's the ball game there. 1 turnover and one missed kick.

staylor26 · 12-07-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yep. Pat averaged 8.2 YPA and the running game averaged 5.5 YPC. We were moving the ball well.

They scored 3 TDs, we scored 3 TDs. They made a kick, we missed a kick. They had no turnovers, we had a crucial turnover in the 4th.

That's the ball game there. 1 turnover and one missed kick.

They did have a turnover on downs though, but yea, that was the difference.

ThaVirus · 12-07-2022, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

They did have a turnover on downs though, but yea, that was the difference.

True, I was in the shitter for that play so I keep forgetting about it lol

But still, there you go. 3 TDs a piece, 1 turnover a piece. Final score 27-24. They made a kick, we missed a kick.

It's even closer than I'm thinking.

AdolfOliverBush · 12-07-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You should probably stick to posting in the DC.

Of course having Hardman and Toney available would've made a difference. Their skill sets have absolutely been missed.

Can they rush the passer, dummy? Moving the ball against Cinci wasn't a problem.

AdolfOliverBush · 12-07-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Hardman has 6TDs almost all in the RedZone, if not all of them, and that dumbass thinks he doesn't add anything to the offense.

I didn't say he doesn't add anything, but the Chiefs didn't lose because of injured WRs.

ChiefsFanatic · 12-07-2022, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You should probably stick to posting in the DC.

Of course having Hardman and Toney available would've made a difference. Their skill sets have absolutely been missed.

I think this game against the Bengals may prove beneficial to Hardman.

I like Hardman a lot more than most on this board. It seems like his development is not progressing, but that assessment is missing one large factor, and that is what is Reid actually asking Hardman to do in the offense, and is Reid unhappy with his progress.

For all we know, Hardman could be performing at a high level in Reid's eye, because Mecole is doing everything that Reid and this offense has asked him to do.

I know we were having relative success on offense against the Bengals, but Hardman has truly elite speed, and has proven he can take a simple jet sweep to the house and is a dangerous weapon in the red zone, and in a scramble drill his speed puts extra pressure on the defense.

His absence, and our struggles in the red zone kinda happened at the same time, and now Veach is going to have to look hard at retaining him. I personally want Mecole back next year.

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TwistedChief · 12-07-2022, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

His absence, and our struggles in the red zone kinda happened at the same time, and now Veach is going to have to look hard at retaining him. I personally want Mecole back next year.

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I think he's definitely upped this game this year as well, but I don't think we traded for Toney to retain Hardman. The guy is probably going to get 3/36 or something along those lines and I'd much rather direct that money to retaining JuJu.

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