Deebo wants $25m/year. Is the WR market broken?

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

I'm sure the NFLPA would never allow it, but I'm curious how a positional salary cap might work, or at least a separate cap number for QBs.

That would make the difference between teams with great QBs and teams without great QBs basically impossible to overcome.

Unless they allowed tougher defensive play.

As it stands now, the cap cost for the great QBs allows for some parity.

[MahomesMagic]

Sorry, this is how the market should be. You pay for elite stars and go cheaper elsewhere.

Deebo at 25 is far better than Kirk at 18.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Sorry, this is how the market should be. You pay for elite stars and go cheaper elsewhere.

Deebo at 25 is far better than Kirk at 18.

From a player's association standpoint, though, this is a bad thing long-term.

The league has brutal turnover as it is. The more high-end deals you see, the more stars/scrubs teams you'll see. In the process it will squeeze out the 2nd contract guys and the middle class FAs will see diminished returns as well.

If the rank/file players in the NFLPA were smart, they'd look to get a handle on some of this and perhaps see if there could be ways to create max deals for certain position groups and/or carveouts for QBs.

Otherwise this is only going to get worse for them.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

From a player's association standpoint, though, this is a bad thing long-term.

The league has brutal turnover as it is. The more high-end deals you see, the more stars/scrubs teams you'll see. In the process it will squeeze out the 2nd contract guys and the middle class FAs will see diminished returns as well.

If the rank/file players in the NFLPA were smart, they'd look to get a handle on some of this and perhaps see if there could be ways to create max deals for certain position groups and/or carveouts for QBs.

Otherwise this is only going to get worse for them.

But the good news for them is there are always dumb teams who overpay the middle class in FA.

Happens every year.

[Monticore]

Team will be going WRBC the same way they did with RB when those guys started asking too much , a bunch of specialists and be creative.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Team will be going WRBC the same way they did with RB when those guys started asking too much , a bunch of specialists and be creative.

Very possibly.

The market will respond. Every position can't go breaking the bank. Somebody is gonna get pinched here and if it's WRs making that kind of money, the defensive equivalent at DB may well respond accordingly. And then teams will go cheap on DL so the counter will be cheaper OL and suddenly the cycle will reverse.

It's just a pendulum. This too shall pass.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

From a player's association standpoint, though, this is a bad thing long-term.

The league has brutal turnover as it is. The more high-end deals you see, the more stars/scrubs teams you'll see. In the process it will squeeze out the 2nd contract guys and the middle class FAs will see diminished returns as well.

If the rank/file players in the NFLPA were smart, they'd look to get a handle on some of this and perhaps see if there could be ways to create max deals for certain position groups and/or carveouts for QBs.

Otherwise this is only going to get worse for them.

just like the latest baseball deal. The everyday players allowed the players with the $100 million contracts to dictate terms friendly to them. They need to do something about the spiraling salaries or the players on the low end are going to see their low end and opportunities shrink even more.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Trade his ass. One ingrate isn't bigger than the team.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Trade his ass. One ingrate isn't bigger than the team.

Ingrate? Deebo was SF's entire offense last season.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Ingrate? Deebo was SF's entire offense last season.

What is he worth in trade value?

Get the Jets on the phone asap.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Ingrate? Deebo was SF's entire offense last season.

He can tell himself that when he's on a terrible team. Money makes everything better.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

He can tell himself that when he's on a terrible team. Money makes everything better.

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

And he's already got a ring....so it's not like he's still searching for that championship.

He'll go down as one of the best deep threats in the history of the NFL no matter what he does in Miami.

I don't fault Hill for what he did. Just like I don't fault Veach for what he did.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

Well, I hope they enjoy living with the decision to go play for seller dwellers. If winning means nothing then go be a paid loser somewhere. They can go to their private beach sipping margaritas and listening to Jimmy Buffet. Then the thought would occur to them how much their current team sux and how they need another drink just to get it off their mind.

[Hoover]

The modern NFL is about drafting well, keeping rosters young and cheap. Pay a few vets big contracts. Perhaps the NFL needs to create a new rule that allows teams to have 1 offensive player and 1 defensive player who is not subject to the cap. The only catch is that they have to be fully guaranteed contracts or something.