Chiefs Lucas Niang opts out... - Page 3

**wazu** · 08-06-2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm not risking Mahomes on a season where we're down 2 OL before the first snap.

Cancel diz sheeit.

We're down a rookie and a guy who was mediocre at best. Calm down.

Hammock Parties · 08-06-2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

We're down a rookie and a guy who was mediocre at best. Calm down.

Tardif at his best was one of the best pass protectors in the league at G.

The rookie was likely going to start at left guard this season, and at the very least was going to be a top backup somewhere.

One injury to anyone on the OL and we are looking at a dumpster fire of an OL.

I ****ing SHIVER if either of our tackles gets hurt or taps out.

**wazu** · 08-06-2020, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Tardif at his best was one of the best pass protectors in the league at G.

The rookie was likely going to start at left guard this season, and at the very least was going to be a top backup somewhere.

One injury to anyone on the OL and we are looking at a dumpster fire of an OL.

I ****ing SHIVER if either of our tackles gets hurt or taps out.

1. Tardif must not be at his "best" very often, then. I see him get thrown out of the way like a ragdoll in pass protection far too often against good defenders.

2. Yes, losing the rookie sucks. But he's not irreplaceable.

3. I always "SHIVER" if we lose our starting LT, or our superstar RT. But that is regardless of who the JAGs are we have sandwiched between them.

DJ's left nut · 08-06-2020, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Tardif at his best was one of the best pass protectors in the league at G.

The rookie was likely going to start at left guard this season, and at the very least was going to be a top backup somewhere.

One injury to anyone on the OL and we are looking at a dumpster fire of an OL.

I ****ing SHIVER if either of our tackles gets hurt or taps out.

Tardif hasn't been 'at his best' for 3 seasons. Mahomes has never had a 'good' version of Tardif in front of him. I don't think he was ever really getting back there, to be honest. Moreover, Wylie at RG was pretty steady in '18 - as good as LDT was that season at least.

And Remmers is better than Erving was last year, by a fair bit, IMO.

So the likely starting OL of Fisher - Osemele - Reiter - Wylie - Schwartz is probably about on par with anything Mahomes has had over the last 2 seasons. And if Fisher goes down, Remmers is probably better than any swing tackle we've had on the roster. If a G goes down, Rankin is probably as good as any backup G we've had. Allegretti was already the backup C.

I don't see any real cause for alarm.

Yet.

Opt-out period isn't over and any more hits could really start to sting.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2020, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And Remmers is better than Erving was last year, by a fair bit, IMO.

That's like choosing between cowshit and horseshit.

RunKC · 08-06-2020, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm not risking Mahomes on a season where we're down 2 OL before the first snap.

Cancel diz sheeit.

Niang wasn’t able to do anything at the combine bc he was still recovering from hip labrum surgery. Gyms closed in March and are still mostly not open. No OTA’s or strength conditioning bc he is likely having to take it easy recovering in rehab.

Niang was never playing this year guys. No way he was able to do real strength training with that injury. It would have been a liability getting him on the field. We already saw that shit with Fisher do why deal with that again?

This was always a long term developmental draft pick. Signing Remmers should have told you that.

O.city · 08-06-2020, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Niang wasn’t able to do anything at the combine bc he was still recovering from hip labrum surgery. Gyms closed in March and are still mostly not open. No OTA’s or strength conditioning bc he is likely having to take it easy recovering in rehab.

Niang was never playing this year guys. No way he was able to do real strength training with that injury. It would have been a liability getting him on the field. We already saw that shit with Fisher do why deal with that again?

This was always a long term developmental draft pick. Signing Remmers should have told you that.

So if gyms are gonna be closed for a while, where are these dudes that opt out gonna work out?

htismaqe · 08-06-2020, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So if gyms are gonna be closed for a while, where are these dudes that opt out gonna work out?

PT is open, people are going.

In58men · 08-06-2020, 08:15 AM

Is there any OL available right now?

Banking on Osemele to stay healthy is not the way I would go into the season.

DJ's left nut · 08-06-2020, 08:18 AM

Well sheet.

Not great news - another hit to the depth of the squad. I'd say we're about out of rope on the OL.

We have some UDFA lineman with nice potential, but with a limited camp and no pre-season, you just have very little ability to get them up to speed.

On its own this won't hurt us but we essentially have no wiggle room left. Rankin needs to come back healthy to give us any depth on the IOL. This may save Allegretti (who I think might have been in trouble). It's pretty well ensures that Remmers is that swing-tackle, though that was probably pretty likely.

Just hate seeing the shots the depth is taking. Injuries could be truly catastrophic at this point.

**The Franchise** · 08-06-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well sheet.

Not great news - another hit to the depth of the squad. I'd say we're about out of rope on the OL.

We have some UDFA lineman with nice potential, but with a limited camp and no pre-season, you just have very little ability to get them up to speed.

On its own this won't hurt us but we essentially have no wiggle room left. Rankin needs to come back healthy to give us any depth on the IOL. This may save Allegretti (who I think might have been in trouble). It's pretty well ensures that Remmers is that swing-tackle, though that was probably pretty likely.

Just hate seeing the shots the depth is taking. Injuries could be truly catastrophic at this point.

Rankins is starting out on PUP. Hopefully he gets healthy really ****ing quick.

DJ's left nut · 08-06-2020, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Rankins is starting out on PUP. Hopefully he gets healthy really ****ing quick.

I feel like I should've known that. That's no bueno.

Who was the shortish kid with mauler strength/technique we picked up out of the SEC as a UDFA? C/G prospect. Might give him an opening. I guess Durant could steal a gig as well.

The coaching staff has a damn tough job in front of them separating the wheat from the chaff here. Fortunately we have arguably the best in the business and Andy himself has an OL background.

Anyone ever watch the films of him coaching linemen? Jesus that guy knows his stuff. It's just incredible seeing him teach out there. Andy Reid is just a damn near perfect head football coach.

**The Franchise** · 08-06-2020, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I feel like I should've known that. That's no bueno.

Who was the shortish kid with mauler strength/technique we picked up out of the SEC as a UDFA? C/G prospect. Might give him an opening. I guess Durant could steal a gig as well.

The coaching staff has a damn tough job in front of them separating the wheat from the chaff here. Fortunately we have arguably the best in the business and Andy himself has an OL background.

Anyone ever watch the films of him coaching linemen? Jesus that guy knows his stuff. It's just incredible seeing him teach out there. Andy Reid is just a damn near perfect head football coach.

Darryl Williams?

DJ's left nut · 08-06-2020, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Darryl Williams?

Yeah.

I knew it was a shorter IOL out of the SEC with a name virtually identical to 6 guys we already had on the squad. So that's him.

Might create an opening for him.

Simply Red · 08-07-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm not risking Mahomes on a season where we're down 2 OL before the first snap.

Cancel diz sheeit.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well sheet.

Not great news - another hit to the depth of the squad. I'd say we're about out of rope on the OL.

We have some UDFA lineman with nice potential, but with a limited camp and no pre-season, you just have very little ability to get them up to speed.

On its own this won't hurt us but we essentially have no wiggle room left. Rankin needs to come back healthy to give us any depth on the IOL. This may save Allegretti (who I think might have been in trouble). It's pretty well ensures that Remmers is that swing-tackle, though that was probably pretty likely.

Just hate seeing the shots the depth is taking. Injuries could be truly catastrophic at this point.

Are these new CP buzzwords? I haven't logged on much lately. Anyways LMK!!

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