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Well if Mathieu says so then that’s fine. It was tough to tell without knowing the call because someone ****ed up. Ragland was trailing that man while Edelman ran underneath. |
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Oh, I think he's a little better than average.
You'll notice though, they got after him a lot more than they do Ward. That's a nice sign of respect to Ward. |
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12-09-2019, 03:18 PM | #35 | |
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Hard to really be positive at all, but it looks like MAYBE Hitchens took a false step to stick with the inside slot guy (probably supposed to drop him off to Wilson with Mathieu maybe providing help over the top) and it let Edelman get clean out of his break. If Ragland wasn't supposed to be dropping off the TE there to take that short zone, then it almost has to have been Hitchens that ended up responsible for it. Ward is clearly in man on the bottom of the field but that doesn't mean that Breeland was supposed to be up high. He could been in a zone there and passing Edelman to Hitchens fairly easily.
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After watching that clip about a hundred times, it's pretty obvious that Breeland wasn't supposed to follow Edelman across the field. It was subterfuge; he was always supposed to fall up-field. It was a trap and it worked.
Though it seems obvious that someone was supposed to cover Edelman (can't leave him just wide open?), but not sure who that was supposed to be. Not Ragland; he's not in any position to cover Edelman once he turns up-field to trail the TE. It's an impossible ask for him, or really any LB from where the play starts. Maybe Hitchens? Last edited by Megatron96; 12-09-2019 at 03:54 PM.. |
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That puts a TON of stress on Thornhill because the inside guy from the bunch formation (81?) got behind Mathieu as Mathieu picked up the RB and Ward was in man, so if Brady had seen Breeland and waited out that route, Thornhill would've had a touch choice on who to provide help to, the deep crosser or the possible deep flag from the TE. But that's the kind of thing you can risk when you have Thornhill's speed and Tom Brady's wobble-launcher of an arm. That Patriots offense has some REAL problems if they can't get their running game picked up in a big way. Anything beyond a 3rd and 5 means they need to get deep into their bag of tricks or hope for a busted coverage (or penalty). They hardly have anything to attack even the intermediate areas with.
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Our corners and safeties have been fantastic. Get Fenton healthy, and we're set in the back end. With our front four playing really well and our linebackers looking better, of course our D is going to look good.
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Fenton is the one guy in this draft that I was like oh great pick, CARL, he's just gonna suck.
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Are you serious? Watch the play. There’s a lot of shit going on. We’ve got some dudes playing man, others playing zone, some trailing, guys late to fill their zone. I was wrong for making the assumption that he ****ed up. You’re just as wrong for assuming he was right.. we can’t know for sure without knowing the play call. |
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Ward, Fenton, Breeland, Claiborne/Fuller
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It's hard to say, because Ragland just turns and takes off after the TE ASAP; which is kind of weird, because there's no way he has the speed to keep up. In fact, he's beaten almost immediately off the line. Not to mention that Ragland isn't a coverage LB at all. At all. AT ALL. The only way I see Ragland being effective at all on that play is if he were lined up at least two yards farther up-field than he actually was at the snap. Then MAYBE he has a chance to jump Edelman as he catches the ball, assuming it's delivered at about the same time of the actual pass. But even then it'd be tough for Ragland to make that tackle, wouldn't it? I mean, Tom's not an idiot, so he would've delivered the ball when Edelman was even or past Ragland, and then Ragland really has no chance of catching Edelamn, so . . . Is it possible that Edelman was really Hitchens/Wilson's responsibility? I mean they were both right there in the middle, and if the ball came to Edelman instead of to the TE, one of them would've probably been in a position to make the tackle. I don't know. But Edelman wasn't Breeland's man on that play, that much is for certain. Afterthought: Maybe Ragland was supposed to chase the TE as part of the trap? Make TB think "well look at that ridiculous match-up, I just have to take that." Would Spags create a design that subtle? Would any DC? If he did, the man's a certifiable lunatic genius. Last edited by Megatron96; 12-09-2019 at 04:23 PM.. |
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