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08-27-2019, 01:37 PM | #1 | |
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Clark for a 1st and 2nd or Clowney for a 2nd? Yeah, I'd take the latter every time. I still think Veach is prone to target fixation and that's how he ends up overpaying for guys like Watkins, Mathieu (FA) and Clark (trade). It's why he felt the need to trade up for Speaks. He just gets too inflexible, IMO.
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08-27-2019, 02:02 PM | #2 | |
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Clark is the better passrusher which is more valuable. I remember Clark tweeting that all he wanted was a bag and the sack record. He's got the bag now. I wonder if he could actually have that monster year in terms of sacks. I mean, he won't beat the sack record but I don't know that 15-20 sacks is out of question. I feel good about him. |
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08-27-2019, 02:24 PM | #3 | |
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That's a fair amount more than a 2nd round pick. I mean you just crunch the numbers on the hallowed 'draft pick chart' and you're effectively talking about roughly the 22nd overall pick when you start setting everything off. Again - that's quite a bit more valuable than a 2nd round pick. Somewhere around twice as valuable depending on where everything may ultimately shake out. And it's just awfully difficult to say that Clark is worth twice the trade compensation as Clowney, is it not? Especially when both guys are looking at similar contract demands. And again - I'm not saying this deal can't work out. I'm just saying that I think some folks are moving that bar pretty low, pretty fast. If I'm betting, I'd say that Clark goes out there and plays well. But probably more akin to Tamba Hali than prime Justin Houston (and that's acknowledging that Hali was underrated). And after giving up what we gave up and paying him as one of the top 5 defensive players in football, I'd like to think expecting something near a Peak Justin Houston impact isn't unreasonable. Hali's deal was worth about 11% of the cap over his peak years and Houston's worth around 12%. Clark will fall around 12% as well. That extra 1% is significant in a $180-$200 million cap era. And while peak Hali was a very good player - I think giving up what we gave up in terms of pick compensation and cap space for something less than Prime Houston when we're paying roughly similar to what we paid for Houston in that era has to be seen as a disappointment even though it isn't a disaster. I'm just saying that the guy needs to be !@#$ing good to make that contract and that trade make sense. This isn't Okafor here - this guy is the centerpiece to a defensive rebuild and he needs to have a friggen monster year to justify this. The Chiefs gave up a lot.
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