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Old 08-05-2019, 10:50 AM   #1
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I said "I'm not sure"

Meaning I don't know how I would have felt, would have had to have looked into them more.

Can't you read?
Yes I can read. You went from “not sure” about them period to “think he could have done it pretty early”. That was quick. Must’ve looked into them in between posts. Considering most corners don’t “do it pretty early”, sounds like it really gave you some confidence in Murphy too.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:51 AM   #2
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Yes I can read. You went from “not sure” in general to “think he could have done it pretty early”. That was quick. Must’ve looked into them in between posts.
I think he could have done it early, but I'm not sure. Seems to fit.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:54 AM   #3
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I think he could have done it early, but I'm not sure. Seems to fit.
Lol yea ok. You’re full of shit dude.

Even DJ said it back when the draft process was going on. The likelihood of drafting a corner at 29 that even would’ve been as good as Nelson was low. I’m sure you agreed with him at the time, but now here you are.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:58 AM   #4
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Lol yea ok. You’re full of shit dude.

Even DJ said it back when the draft process was going on. The likelihood of drafting a corner at 29 that even would’ve been as good as Nelson year 1 was low. I’m sure you agreed with him at the time m, but now here you are.
Sure, but even a guy as good as Nelson to start would have had value because you'd have 5 years of pretty cheap play for that.

I don't think you're getting a star at CB at 29, especially in his first year. Maybe he develops into Byron Jones (who was taken in that area) eventually, but it's not all about that first year.

That's my argument here. It's fine that they did what they did, I get it. But Clark has to be an ass kicker, right now, and for a while for them to come out even equal.

You were a Nelson fan anyway, why wouldn't you want another one of those?
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:23 AM   #5
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Sure, but even a guy as good as Nelson to start would have had value because you'd have 5 years of pretty cheap play for that.

I don't think you're getting a star at CB at 29, especially in his first year. Maybe he develops into Byron Jones (who was taken in that area) eventually, but it's not all about that first year.

That's my argument here. It's fine that they did what they did, I get it. But Clark has to be an ass kicker, right now, and for a while for them to come out even equal.

You were a Nelson fan anyway, why wouldn't you want another one of those?
I was not a Nelson “fan”. I said he didn’t suck nearly as bad as CP thought he did. I defended him. If I were a fan, I wouldn’t have been so quick to say let him walk giving the need at the position. He was a decent 3rd round pick that we got some value out of for a couple years. That’s it.

If you think drafting another Nelson at 29 was better than getting an elite edge rusher, you’re dumber than I thought.
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I was not a Nelson “fan”. I said he didn’t suck nearly as bad as CP thought he did. I defended him. If I were a fan, I wouldn’t have been so quick to say let him walk giving the need at the position. He was a decent 3rd round pick that we got some value out of for a couple years. That’s it.

If you think drafting another Nelson at 29 was better than getting an elite edge rusher, you’re dumber than I thought.
If Nelson is the guys ceiling, sure it would be dumb

But if that’s his baseline and he could develop into a Byron Jones type player for a cheap 5 years there is a value discussion

Again, my whole thing is about value and cap dollars.
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I was not a Nelson “fan”. I said he didn’t suck nearly as bad as CP thought he did. I defended him. If I were a fan, I wouldn’t have been so quick to say let him walk giving the need at the position. He was a decent 3rd round pick that we got some value out of for a couple years. That’s it.

If you think drafting another Nelson at 29 was better than getting an elite edge rusher, you’re dumber than I thought.
That’s where I was too. He’s better than he was given credit. Then I figured out what he was going to make. Later dude.
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