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1980 Brett 20 23.53%
2018 Mahomes 65 76.47%
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:05 PM  
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The Best Ever Individual Season In KC Professional Sports History
After the amazing year by Mahomes, it made me wonder. Was this THE best ever season by any KC professional athlete in history?

Note, this covers the Chiefs and the Royals. One may want to raise Tom Watson in this and yes, he did win a pair of majors in both 1977 and 1982, but we're talking best individual season by a player on a professional sports team.

All due respect to DT's 20 sack season in 1990, Priest Holmes tremendous seasons in 2002 & 2003, Christian Okoye's NFL rushing best 1989 season, Joe Montans's memorable 1993 season or cripes, Larry Johnson's 2006 season, nobody had a better season than 2018 Patrick Mahomes. The crazy thing is if he stays healthy, he should have even better seasons than this year - heck, this season may not even rank in his Top 5 seasons when it's all said and done!

(I wasn't around for the Stram Era Chiefs but I don't think anyone had a season like 2018 Mahomes. Old timers feel free to chime in...)

So we go across the parking lot to the Royals. There was 2009 Zach Grienke. Not good enough. 1989 Bret Saberhagen, 1985 Bret Saberhagen? Good ones, but Mahomes was better. Maybe a 1987 Kevin Seitzer or a 1977 Al Cowens? Who are we kidding - it's not even close.

There's only ONE player who can really go toe to to toe with Mahomes and that's George Brett. Which season can compare to 2018 Mahomes? Well he did have awesome 1976, 1979, 1985 and 1990 seasons. Other than 1985, none of those other seasons could beat that. 1985 may have been Brett's best season overall, especially with it ending in a World Series Championship that he pretty much carried the Royals on his back to glory. His numbers were excellent but compare it to 2018 Mahomes and it falls short - not by much, but it does.

However, there was the 1980 Brett season - a season that was (like Mahomes this year) completely unreal.

A lot of you were not alive for that magical year and some of you may not even follow baseball that much, but let me tell you. It was off the charts amazing and the only thing comparable to 2018 Mahomes. Dare I say, it can be argued that 1980 Brett was even better than 2018 Mahomes.

Consider these numbers:

Brett finished at .390, leading the major leagues in average, on-base percentage (.454) and slugging percentage (.664). His 1.118 OPS was more than 100 points better than anyone else's that season.

And though he didn't hit .400 ...

• He hit .437 with 118 hits and six strikeouts in 270 at-bats against right-handed pitching.

• From May 30 to August 30 (a stretch that included a stint on the DL), Brett hit .470 (!) with 116 hits in 61 games (in which the Royals went 46-15). He hit .494 in the month of July.

• He hit .469 with 61 hits and five strikeouts with runners in scoring position.

• He hit .421 in the first five innings of games.

• He hit .425 with 22 RBIs in 10 games against the Yankees. That was foreshadowing for the postseason, when his three-run home run against Rich Gossage in Game 3 of the ALCS helped put the Royals into the World Series for the first ever time.

Those numbers are freaking ridiculous!

Mahomes by comparison had the 5,097 yards and 50 TD's passing (52 overall when you factor in the rushing TDs), Include the playoffs and he threw for 53 TD's and ran in 3 more.

The Chiefs offense scored 66 TD's in the regular season and 8 more in the playoffs for 74 TD's (that averages to more than 4 TD's PER GAME).

Twelve different Chiefs players caught at least 1 TD pass from Mahomes.

Mahomes only turned the ball over 16 times (12 picks, 4 fumbles) for the entire season including playoffs. That's 18 games, less than 1 a game.

Mahomes threw for at least 300 yards a total of 10 times this season. He had over 300 combined yards another 3 times. In the other 5 games, his lowest combined yardage total was 246 yards.

Both Brett and Mahomes led their teams to Divisional Championships.

Both Brett and Mahomes exorcised demons in the postseason (Brett finally overcoming the Yankees postseason jinx, Mahomes overcoming the Arrowhead playoff jinx and the Colts playoff jinx all in one).

Both Brett and Mahomes fell short in their quest to win a Championship but not by lack of trying (Brett batted .375 in the World Series and hit a HR in his very first home at bat, Mahomes put up 24 4th quarter points in the AFC Championship Game).

It makes for a fun argument, where there's really no right answer - just total dominance by what will be the two most popular professional athletes in Kansas City sports history?

If you had to choose one, who would you say had the best ever season?

1980 Brett or 2018 Mahomes?

Poll to follow...
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:14 PM   #16
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:27 PM   #17
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:30 PM   #18
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nah. i mean you COULD argue that Brett's '85 season was better than the '80 season, particularly if you include his postseason, in which he pretty much singlehandedly brought the team back from 3-1 deficits TWICE to win it. Best power numbers, plus a gold glove.

That '85 postseason is the reason Brett was an almost unanimous first ballot HOF'er. I don't know that I've ever seen a position player completely dominate like that. He just willed them to win.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:02 PM   #19
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Brett sat a ton of games down the stretch to maintain the batting average. Mahomes didn’t. End of argument for me.

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Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:08 PM   #20
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Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
He only played like 120 games that year. It was the hemorrhoids thing.
Great season, but I'd argue that '85 was his truly dominant year.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:09 PM   #21
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Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
Whether by hook or by crook Georgie played in 72% of games in 1980. If mahomes misses four games he doesn’t approach his numbers and we barely sniff the third seed.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:23 PM   #22
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Whether by hook or by crook Georgie played in 72% of games in 1980. If mahomes misses four games he doesn’t approach his numbers and we barely sniff the third seed.
If Mahomes missed 4 games, we’d be no better than 10-6 and would possibly be out of the playoffs.

(The 6th seed Colts went 10-6).
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Ok, best non-Brett, non-QB seasons?

Tom Watson '77 - won the US and British open

DT - 20 sacks
Houston - 22 sacks
Priest Holmes - 27 TDs
That year Willie Wilson had like 6 inside the park homers
Sabes Cy Young years
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Don't know much about baseball---but that was a great post. Thank you.
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I voted Mahomes of course but Hosmer had a better season than George Brett

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Statistically speaking, only 1 other QB had a comparable season to Mahomes, and that's Peyton Manning, a top 3 QB of all time.

Brett had a great season for sure, hitting a baseball at the ML level is probably one of the hardest things to do in all of sports. But others have put up similar numbers, and Brett didn't get the ball over the fence much, esp compared to stats of today. Some may think that shouldn't matter and that OB% and SLG% are more important.

But Mahomes has only started 18 games in the NFL. That's insane..gotta go w/ Mahomes.
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