So what ‘thing’ will Belichick try and take away from the Chiefs offense?

[tk13]

I bet they come after Mahomes. They aren't usually a blitzing team, but they did it last week to Rivers, and teams have had more success against Mahomes going after him than just sitting back and letting him gut you.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by tk13

I bet they come after Mahomes. They aren't usually a blitzing team, but they did it last week to Rivers, and teams have had more success against Mahomes going after him than just sitting back and letting him gut you.

Agreed. Might see alot of Raven like blitzes

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tk13

I bet they come after Mahomes. They aren't usually a blitzing team, but they did it last week to Rivers, and teams have had more success against Mahomes going after him than just sitting back and letting him gut you.

The thing is, they can't sell out like they did against Rivers. They're going to have to have outside contain, particularly to the right because of Patrick's scrambling ability.

I mean, looking at all the possibilities, it looks like a lot of hope. They'll probably play like the Ravens did but do they really have that kind of personnel? Can they run man the entire game and not get gassed?

I think the Chiefs are going to run them off the field if they try that. There's just too many weapons.

[Dr. Yu Weed Tard]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The thing is, they can't sell out like they did against Rivers. They're going to have to have outside contain, particularly to the right because of Patrick's scrambling ability.

I mean, looking at all the possibilities, it looks like a lot of hope. They'll probably play like the Ravens did but do they really have that kind of personnel? Can they run man the entire game and not get gassed?

I think the Chiefs are going to run them off the field if they try that. There's just too many weapons.

This.

NE won't be able to keep up, just from a speed perspective.

I'm not even worried about the offense producing - we scored 40 on them, and that's with not scoring a TD until right before halftime.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The thing is, they can't sell out like they did against Rivers. They're going to have to have outside contain, particularly to the right because of Patrick's scrambling ability.

I mean, looking at all the possibilities, it looks like a lot of hope. They'll probably play like the Ravens did but do they really have that kind of personnel? Can they run man the entire game and not get gassed?

I think the Chiefs are going to run them off the field if they try that. There's just too many weapons.

The Cheaters used Hightower is a kind of spy on Mahomes in the first game. It was a good strategy and it paid off for them. If Wally is right and Mahomes doesn't repeat mistakes, they'll have to find some other way of dealing with Mahomes. (I don't think there is a great answer, frankly.)

To be honest, I wasn't all that thrilled with our o-line play in that first half, though.

But the numbers favor us. The Chiefs have too many weapons. If they bump and run with Tyreek, that's cool because he'll get free a few times (plus, it's difficult to play bump/run against a motion guy). If they try and double Kelce with a d-back (of some sort) and a backer, we have the short pass game with the RB and Sammy "Feets" and YAC. If they play zone, they're toast.

Pressure is the only cure to this offense and that's on the o-line and the scheme that Wally devises. If Mahomes burns them against pressure a few times, they'll be forced to give that up. Personally, I think they'll try and copy the donks' disguised, overloaded blitz package. But if they do that and lose contain, they're double toasted.

I'm more concerned about two things; 1) Can we run the ball N/S with Williams and Ware? and 2) How do we cover the Cheaters' short pass game?

FAX

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by FAX

The Cheaters used Hightower is a kind of spy on Mahomes in the first game. It was a good strategy and it paid off for them. If Wally is right and Mahomes doesn't repeat mistakes, they'll have to find some other way of dealing with Mahomes. (I don't think there is a great answer, frankly.)

To be honest, I wasn't all that thrilled with our o-line play in that first half, though.

But the numbers favor us. The Chiefs have too many weapons. If they bump and run with Tyreek, that's cool because he'll get free a few times (plus, it's difficult to play bump/run against a motion guy). If they try and double Kelce with a d-back (of some sort) and a backer, we have the short pass game with the RB and Sammy "Feets" and YAC. If they play zone, they're toast.

Pressure is the only cure to this offense and that's on the o-line and the scheme that Wally devises. If Mahomes burns them against pressure a few times, they'll be forced to give that up. Personally, I think they'll try and copy the donks' disguised, overloaded blitz package. But if they do that and lose contain, they're double toasted.

I'm more concerned about two things; 1) Can we run the ball N/S with Williams and Ware? and 2) How do we cover the Cheaters' short pass game?

FAX

1)yes I think so. 2) I think we man up, which disrupts the short game, forcing Brady to hold the ball, where our pass rush will feast.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

1)yes I think so. 2) I think we man up, which disrupts the short game, forcing Brady to hold the ball, where our pass rush will feast.

I hope you're right. Those are the crucial match-ups, IMO. Our downhill run game vs. their base defense and their uber-short pass game against our base defense.

I know this much, though; if we can disturb Tommy Two Yards early in the game, we win this walking away. He don't like those hit things. And you can't throw a 3-yard out while your facemask is submerged in soil.

FAX

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by FAX

I hope you're right. Those are the crucial match-ups, IMO. Our downhill run game vs. their base defense and their uber-short pass game against our base defense.

I know this much, though; if we can disturb Tommy Two Yards early in the game, we win this walking away. He don't like those hit things. And you can't throw a 3-yard out while your facemask is submerged in soil.

FAX

right. It's why the Chargers' plan was asinine. You can't sit around in zone all day, Brady will dissect you. BUT, if you're manning up and can do it, that makes him hold the ball. IF you have a pass rush, especially a strong inside rush, you can crush him.

I actually think at this point in the season, we match up well on their weapons with the exception of the backs. If Berry plays, we might be okay there too.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

right. It's why the Chargers' plan was asinine. You can't sit around in zone all day, Brady will dissect you. BUT, if you're manning up and can do it, that makes him hold the ball. IF you have a pass rush, especially a strong inside rush, you can crush him.

I actually think at this point in the season, we match up well on their weapons with the exception of the backs. If Berry plays, we might be okay there too.

If Berry plays (on that particular day), I wouldn't be surprised if Tommy Two Yards gets picked twice. Nobody studies film or reads and anticipates QBs better than EB.

Of course, he's also a stud in the run game.

FAX

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by JakeF

He will take away all the short stuff (run game and Kelce) with blitzing so Mahomes and Hill don't have time to hook up on anything deep. Force our offensive line to play smart and deal with stunts, slants, and zone blitzes making Mahomes decide quickly.

Don't let Mahomes roll out to the right.

Pressure, pressure, pressure.

Originally Posted by tk13

I bet they come after Mahomes. They aren't usually a blitzing team, but they did it last week to Rivers, and teams have had more success against Mahomes going after him than just sitting back and letting him gut you.

Exactly! I think this is where their focus will be all game and our o-line has to be ready to make adjustments. Fisher,Schwartz(get lazy at times) and especially Irving who is not the sharpest tool in the shed and can be a turnstile at times. Bill will grind the clock out with the running game and underneath stuff to the RBs to keep Pat on the sidelines for as long as possible.