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Probably a smart decision though; a healthy year puts him in the top 15, IMO. That kid has incredible talent.
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01-14-2019, 11:49 AM | #63 | |
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I know the whole RB issue. I personally wouldn't take one there or anywhere close to that and i'm pretty sure Andy shares a similar thought process. Ideally, I'd really like to have a 3 down badass at MLB. Is there any way there is one of those there? |
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Not sure if it will be the 1st rd, but I can see Andy wanting another weapon due to Sammy Watkins inconsistency.
I like Robinson, but he isn’t a big difference maker. A big target receiver with more lateral athleticism to get open quickly would be a great value. It would also allow us to trade Watkins in the last year of his deal if necessary. I think Veach wants someone like JuJu. Very similar to Sammy but cheap for 5 years.
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Not sure that's what Veach or Reid look for in their WRs, but he'll probably be the best WR that may be available late in the 1st.
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I'm sure he wants to play QB but if Kyler Murray was there where the Chiefs are picking and was open to playing RB/WR/ QB would you do it?
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You're no fun.
I wouldn't want that headache though. What DL or S is gonna be the best bet to be there when we pick? |
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Only way I do that is if a Gurley or Barkley level talent fell to 32... but there are still too many teams stupid enough to take RBs early in the 1st for that to ever happen. And even if it did happen, I'd only take the RB if there weren't a clear starter in a more valuable position.
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That's a lot of holes anyway you look at it. But since then, Damien Williams performance, the Reiter signing, Lucas and Wards play all cuts that list down quite a bit and maybe there aren't nearly as many holes as people first thought. I can see the argument for shipping the two 2nd's for a 1st, but I think you can realistically expect a solid contribution from a 2nd round pick in their first year (See Leonard, Jessie Bates) if you pick the right guy. Speaks was always going to be a project, as was Kpass. The key thing for me now is that whether or not you trade up those seconds, you absolutely have to get a contributor that you are expecting 3 and a half years of solid starter play from at least. |
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The bottom line, though, is that if you use the 2s you're probably hoping for someone that gives you 3(ish) years and the odds are that one of them gives you natch. Whereas if you fold them into a 1st, you can realistically plan for 4 years and a shot at 5. Honestly, if we still had Dorsey I might be more inclined towards keeping the 2s because I think he's a brilliant scout. Veach, OTOH, I just don't have as much confidence in. And it's not that I think he's bad in that regard, it's more that I think he's closer to average. And those average GMs are looking at a 40-50% bust rate on 2nd rounders. Additionally, I think we're looking for some pieces that are just damn hard to scout (DB and DL are notoriously difficult to project). In that case, I think I'd rather lower the degree of difficulty. Again, it all comes down to the board. If there's nobody sitting there at the back of 1 that Veach and crew feel strongly about, then I'll defer to them. But if there's a potential Leonard or Bobby Wagner sitting there at the back of the 1st, I'd sure like to see them get aggressive and move up for the ceiling rather than lay back and hope to win via numbers.
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I wonder if one of those 2nds could be turned into the next Mitch Morse, if they've decided to move on from him. That's usually a nice sweet spot to find some nice OL. They need an ILB with Ragland being a free agent, if he would stay for reasonable price I'd keep him. He's not great but I can't think they were as bad as they showed thru this season right? |
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One area I think the Chiefs need to dip their toe is the pick swap for a player. Seems to be some market inefficiency there
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