Misc What is your stance on aliens?

**Bufkin** · 05-31-2015, 07:39 AM

God created man and woman within the first week about 6,000 years ago. Nowhere in Heavenly Father's 6th day of creation (creatures of the land to rule over the fish of the sea) does he mention making some ET looking mother ****er on Mars.

**Rausch** · 05-31-2015, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

God created man and woman within the first week about 6,000 years ago. Nowhere in Heavenly Father's 6th day of creation (creatures of the land to rule over the fish of the sea) does he mention making some ET looking mother ****er on Mars.

Nowhere does he mention Mars...

**Dave Lane** · 05-31-2015, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

God created man and woman within the first week about 6,000 years ago. Nowhere in Heavenly Father's 6th day of creation (creatures of the land to rule over the fish of the sea) does he mention making some ET looking mother ****er on Mars.

Hey he's that white dude with the big flowing beard and robe isn't he? Yeah I met that dude. I think he was panhandling down by the Plaza. Ungodly with a harmonica.

**Bufkin** · 05-31-2015, 07:51 AM

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Hey he's that white dude with the big flowing beard and robe isn't he? Yeah I met that dude. I think he was panhandling down by the Plaza. Ungodly with a harmonica.

Dave, if God doesn't exist, how do you explain the tides? You can't explain that.

Sorry sorry, I'm not meaning for my sarcasm to take over a fun discussion on extraterrestrial life. I know Dave understands. Well, I think he understands my humor.

In all reality, I'm agnostic on it. Do they exist? Maybe. Do I want them to exist? Absolutely. I think that gives a much more rational explanation to how the universe works. It also adds a bit of meaning.

**lewdog** · 05-31-2015, 08:28 AM

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Dave, if God doesn't exist, how do you explain the tides? You can't explain that.

Sorry sorry, I'm not meaning for my sarcasm to take over a fun discussion on extraterrestrial life. I know Dave understands. Well, I think he understands my humor.

In all reality, I'm agnostic on it. Do they exist? Maybe. Do I want them to exist? Absolutely. I think that gives a much more rational explanation to how the universe works. It also adds a bit of meaning.

No, you're a Mormon.

Now take your stupid shit to DC, this is about aliens not God.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-31-2015, 08:36 AM

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No, you're a Moron.

Now take your stupid shit to DC, this is about aliens not God.

Is this what you meant?

**lewdog** · 05-31-2015, 08:38 AM

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Is this what you meant?

No, I typed it correct the first time.

ThaVirus · 05-31-2015, 10:19 AM

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In all reality, I'm agnostic on it. Do they exist? Maybe. Do I want them to exist? Absolutely. I think that gives a much more rational explanation to how the universe works. It also adds a bit of meaning.

I think, if their are other sentient life forms in the universe, it would do more to strip the "meaning" from our lives.

Mr. Laz · 05-31-2015, 10:53 AM

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I think, if their are other sentient life forms in the universe, it would do more to strip the "meaning" from our lives.

Only for the people who think the meaning of our lives is to be the one and only chosen ones.

ThaVirus · 05-31-2015, 10:57 AM

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Only for the people who think the meaning of our lives it to be the one and only chosen ones.

That would be a vast percentage of the population of this planet, would it not?

Mr. Laz · 05-31-2015, 11:28 AM

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That would be a vast percentage of the population of this planet, would it not?

Most religions don't specifically address whether life exists anywhere besides earth.

Only the arrogant and/or deluded would believe that

non-religious:

What are the odds that earth is the only place the right conditions for life exist and occurred? Billions of planets like earth, trillions of stars and planets that could sustain non-humanoid life.

People of Religion:

why would a supreme being create a universe so vast that our human minds can't even comprehend it, then put a single speck of life on earth? what is the point of billions x trillions of empty space? Many religious predict the 2nd coming and/or judgement day will occur long before we will be able to even search our own small galaxy. God was bored?

makes no sense to believe we are the only 'life' in the universe

Only people who don't want to believe it could reach that conclusion.

**Easy 6** · 06-02-2015, 05:07 PM

Its pretty hilarious that some people want to slam my "appeal to the authority" of people like the highest military officer in the US, or the head of the CIA... but then they turn right around and quote Neil Tyson as a rebuttal.

If "appeals to authority" are good enough for them, they're good enough for me.

"For the government to continue to maintain that ufo's are nonexistent in the face of documents already released and other cogent evidence presented, is puerile and in a sense an insult to the American people".

"I have begun to feel that there is a tendency in 20th century science to forget that there will be a 21st century science, and indeed a 30th century science, from which vantage points of our knowledge of our universe may appear quite different than it does to us. We suffer perhaps, from a temporal provincialism, a form of arrogance that has always irritated posterity".

"Ridicule is not part of the scientific method and the public should not be taught that it is".

Those are three quotes from J. Allen Hynek, one of the leading scientists for Project Blue Book.

"I know other astronauts share my feelings, and we know that the government is sitting on hard evidence of ufo's". - Colonel Gordon Cooper.

"The phenomenon of ufo's does exist, and it must be treated seriously". - Mikhail Gorbachev

"Interstellar space flight is far beyond our present our present technical capabilities, but there seems to be no fundamental physical objections to preclude, from our own vantage point, the possibility of its development by other civilizations". - Carl Sagan

"I would do it (study ufo's), but before agreeing to do it, we must insist on full access to the disc recovered. For instance in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination". - J. Edgar Hoover

"Its time for the truth to be brought out... behind the scenes high ranking Air Force personnel are soberly concerned about the ufo's. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the ufo's are nonsense. I urge immediate congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about ufo's". Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, first director of the CIA 1947-1950

So again, no amount of disbelief can change their words... this is my last post here, dont know why I even bother, but theres plenty more where these came from for the enquiring minds who arent so sure they have it all figured out.

stevieray · 06-02-2015, 05:13 PM

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Its pretty hilarious that some people want to slam my "appeal to the authority" of people like the highest military officer in the US, or the head of the CIA... but then they turn right around and quote Neil Tyson as a rebuttal.

If "appeals to authority" are good enough for them, they're good enough for me.

"For the government to continue to maintain that ufo's are nonexistent in the face of documents already released and other cogent evidence presented, is puerile and in a sense an insult to the American people".

"I have begun to feel that there is a tendency in 20th century science to forget that there will be a 21st century science, and indeed a 30th century science, from which vantage points of our knowledge of our universe may appear quite different than it does to us. We suffer perhaps, from a temporal provincialism, a form of arrogance that has always irritated posterity".

"Ridicule is not part of the scientific method and the public should not be taught that it is".

Those are three quotes from J. Allen Hynek, one of the leading scientists for Project Blue Book.

"I know other astronauts share my feelings, and we know that the government is sitting on hard evidence of ufo's". - Colonel Gordon Cooper.

"The phenomenon of ufo's does exist, and it must be treated seriously". - Mikhail Gorbachev

"Interstellar space flight is far beyond our present our present technical capabilities, but there seems to be no fundamental physical objections to preclude, from our own vantage point, the possibility of its development by other civilizations". - Carl Sagan

"I would do it (study ufo's), but before agreeing to do it, we must insist on full access to the disc recovered. For instance in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination". - J. Edgar Hoover

"Its time for the truth to be brought out... behind the scenes high ranking Air Force personnel are soberly concerned about the ufo's. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the ufo's are nonsense. I urge immediate congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about ufo's". Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, first director of the CIA 1947-1950

So again, no amount of disbelief can change their words... this is my last post here, dont know why I even bother, but theres plenty more where these came from for the enquiring minds who arent so sure they have it all figured out.

the quote of Neal's pretty much says he prolly shouldn't ever debate the subject of God.

**Easy 6** · 06-02-2015, 05:32 PM

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the quote of Neal's pretty much says he prolly shouldn't ever debate the subject of God.

I forget exactly what his quote was, but he's very much the typical scientist in that respect... if they cant put it under a microscope... or kinda more to the point, dont want to put it under their microscope for fear of ridicule, then it doesnt exist.

Thank God for guys like Friedman, Hynek and Kelleher.

Fish · 06-02-2015, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Its pretty hilarious that some people want to slam my "appeal to the authority" of people like the highest military officer in the US, or the head of the CIA... but then they turn right around and quote Neil Tyson as a rebuttal.

If "appeals to authority" are good enough for them, they're good enough for me.

It's funny that when you get called out for the logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority, you double down with even more Appeal to Authority...

I never mentioned NDT, but it's nice that you admit to the logical fallacy...

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They come here and the government has some understanding and talks with them, has ships and bodies, and knows something about what they are.	25	16.23%
They come here, and the government investigates sightings and keeps secrets and has evidence but they don't know much.	31	20.13%
They exist and they come here but no one (including government) has any solid physical evidence or shocking secrets.	11	7.14%
They exist and are intelligent and could come here but they don't.	18	11.69%
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06-02-2015, 05:07 PM	#12
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3337775	Its pretty hilarious that some people want to slam my "appeal to the authority" of people like the highest military officer in the US, or the head of the CIA... but then they turn right around and quote Neil Tyson as a rebuttal. If "appeals to authority" are good enough for them, they're good enough for me. "For the government to continue to maintain that ufo's are nonexistent in the face of documents already released and other cogent evidence presented, is puerile and in a sense an insult to the American people". "I have begun to feel that there is a tendency in 20th century science to forget that there will be a 21st century science, and indeed a 30th century science, from which vantage points of our knowledge of our universe may appear quite different than it does to us. We suffer perhaps, from a temporal provincialism, a form of arrogance that has always irritated posterity". "Ridicule is not part of the scientific method and the public should not be taught that it is". Those are three quotes from J. Allen Hynek, one of the leading scientists for Project Blue Book. "I know other astronauts share my feelings, and we know that the government is sitting on hard evidence of ufo's". - Colonel Gordon Cooper. "The phenomenon of ufo's does exist, and it must be treated seriously". - Mikhail Gorbachev "Interstellar space flight is far beyond our present our present technical capabilities, but there seems to be no fundamental physical objections to preclude, from our own vantage point, the possibility of its development by other civilizations". - Carl Sagan "I would do it (study ufo's), but before agreeing to do it, we must insist on full access to the disc recovered. For instance in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination". - J. Edgar Hoover "Its time for the truth to be brought out... behind the scenes high ranking Air Force personnel are soberly concerned about the ufo's. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the ufo's are nonsense. I urge immediate congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about ufo's". Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, first director of the CIA 1947-1950 So again, no amount of disbelief can change their words... this is my last post here, dont know why I even bother, but theres plenty more where these came from for the enquiring minds who arent so sure they have it all figured out.
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