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Old 02-26-2015, 03:04 PM   #1
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TWC starts offering Fiber customers 100mbps service at the same cost as their normal shitty service (that I'm pretty sure didn't even exist a couple years ago) and now has 50mbps and 100mbps available to just about anyone.

AT&T comes out with gigabit service.
I was on the phone with one of TWC's "advanced" technical support, and his quote was "you have the basic package, which in a google zone is anything but basic". Then told a story about how people on the coasts were pissing and moaning about TWC not offering (or giving as they are doing in KC) 100 Mbps to them and only "those hayseeds in flyover country" could get it.
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:06 PM   #2
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I was on the phone with one of TWC's "advanced" technical support, and his quote was "you have the basic package, which in a google zone is anything but basic". Then told a story about how people on the coasts were pissing and moaning about TWC not offering (or giving as they are doing in KC) 100 Mbps to them and only "those hayseeds in flyover country" could get it.
"Hayseeds"?

Yeah....i bet your Rep made that shit up.
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Old 03-02-2015, 06:01 PM   #3
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ISPs cry that bandwidth is expensive and someone (content providers, but more likely customers) should pay for all the bandwidth used by Netflix, Hulu, etc.

ISPs, most notably Comcast, contribute millions to campaign funds to buy votes instead of, you know, updating their shit that's put to shame by other countries.

Google Fiber happens.

TWC starts offering Fiber customers 100mbps service at the same cost as their normal shitty service (that I'm pretty sure didn't even exist a couple years ago) and now has 50mbps and 100mbps available to just about anyone.

AT&T comes out with gigabit service.

tl;dr -- Competition happened.
Basically the only things moving this country into the future are Google and Elon Musk.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:30 PM   #4
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Good. Completely absurd it even got to that point... if you didn't already know, all you have to do is look at what's happening in KC to know the ISPs are completely full of shit.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:44 PM   #5
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Good. Completely absurd it even got to that point... if you didn't already know, all you have to do is look at what's happening in KC to know the ISPs are completely full of shit.
Didn't ATT SUDDENLY discover new bandwidth capacities to counter Google? LOL
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:47 PM   #6
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If my shitty ass country electric company can come up with the money to build THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of miles of rural fiber lines, and provide uncapped, world-leading internet speed, at an affordable price, why cant companies making money hand over fist?

Oh I know. They can.

I was paying 7.99 per mb of download speed, and 53.99 (!!!!!) per mb of upload speed via centurylink

I now pay .10 per mb of upload and .10 per mb of download through an electric co-op.

So I dont want to hear they cant build infrastructure. Cant and wont are two different things.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:27 PM   #7
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If my shitty ass country electric company can come up with the money to build THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of miles of rural fiber lines, and provide uncapped, world-leading internet speed, at an affordable price, why cant companies making money hand over fist?

Oh I know. They can.

I was paying 7.99 per mb of download speed, and 53.99 (!!!!!) per mb of upload speed via centurylink

I now pay .10 per mb of upload and .10 per mb of download through an electric co-op.

So I dont want to hear they cant build infrastructure. Cant and wont are two different things.
If that shitty company is part of RUS or other funding programs, that's how they are able to deploy ftth. I work for one of those small shitty isp's that recently finished a ftth rollout in the past few years. It doesn't entirely all come out of the company piggy bank. There are a number of programs geared to make that kind of thing happen.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:29 PM   #8
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If my shitty ass country electric company can come up with the money to build THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of miles of rural fiber lines, and provide uncapped, world-leading internet speed, at an affordable price, why cant companies making money hand over fist?

Oh I know. They can.

I was paying 7.99 per mb of download speed, and 53.99 (!!!!!) per mb of upload speed via centurylink

I now pay .10 per mb of upload and .10 per mb of download through an electric co-op.

So I dont want to hear they cant build infrastructure. Cant and wont are two different things.
In cedar falls, we pay 57.50 (total after tax, no contract) per month for 50meg internet with no data cap.

All fiber
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:05 PM   #9
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So, does this mean an internet service provider can't charge say

$50 for 200 mbps
$30 for 100 mbps
$15 for 10 mbps
$10 for 2 mbps

It would just all be the same speed, for the same price??

???? anybody know
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:12 PM   #10
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So, does this mean an internet service provider can't charge say

$50 for 200 mbps
$30 for 100 mbps
$15 for 10 mbps
$10 for 2 mbps

It would just all be the same speed, for the same price??

???? anybody know
No. They can still offer different tiers of service.

It just means they can't prioritize websites/content on the basis of those companies paying for "fast lanes".
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:12 PM   #11
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Anyone think now that they'll try to gerimander what a "Legal content provider" is? And some tech has to have prioritization...so does this impact QoS for voice and video traffic?
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:14 PM   #12
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Anyone think now that they'll to germander what a "Legal content provider" is?
Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, iTunes, etc.
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Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, iTunes, etc.
What about this site for example?
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What about this site for example?
not legal

plz restrict bandwidth plz
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What scares me the most about this is the fact it sets precedent to do more unpopular things in the future. Am I wrong in assuming it will be easier to move forward regulating other aspects of the internet?
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